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HSmith2412

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49789183-64C2-4AEA-96B9-0B73DECE74EA.jpegThe little one on the bottom left! Does it look like it’s dying? I thought I might of been overwatering so I’ve scaled back and it’s the only one that looks like it’s dying. The leaves are very green. They were planted in Jiffy pots with Jiffy soil a little over a week ago. They go under 18/6 light cycle and I do mist them during the day. Temps stays around 74 with 50% humidity and goes to 68 during lights off. They are in a 4x4 grow tent with lights about 24 inches above. The stem is very thin compared to the others. Am I loosing this one? I’m a first time grower so please any help is appreciated!
 
Renfro

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If you were over watering it may have gotten damp off, hard to tell from that pic, does the stem look likes it's pinched near the base?
 
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Renfro said:
They do look ready to water now BTW.
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Nothing looks pinched! And I watered all of them the same way too! And see that’s how the soil looks after about 4-6 hours regardless of how I water. And there’s great drainage too. Before that picture I had just watered them 4 hours prior.
 
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HSmith2412 said:
Nothing looks pinched! And I watered all of them the same way too! And see that’s how the soil looks after about 4-6 hours regardless of how I water. And there’s great drainage too. Before that picture I had just watered them 4 hours prior.
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Well I will trust your judgement on how well watered they are, go by weight. If you are having to water that often then somethings not right. When you water are you drenching it and then letting it dry or are you just barely watering it?

You want to water hard then wait to let it dry before watering again. Over watering is not how much water but how often.
 
Renfro

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Sometimes when soil gets way too dry it becomes hydrophobic and water runs right through without adsorbing.
 
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I was just spraying it every 4-6 hours at first. But I just recently switched to Drenching first thing in the morning and then spraying through the day when the tops look dry. Unless that’s too much? The one next to it was dropping and when I changed the watering it peeked back up. I’m just worried that little one is too far gone. I gave it a good watering this morning
 
mmcma17

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Those plant containers look bone dry. Those types of pots suck out moisture and evaporate quicker. Also it could be heat or light stress, over or under fed nutrients or wrong pH.
 
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To be honest they look like almost too much light and / or overwatering. Even if they are bone dry, water too often can cause this, even if all conditions are perfect. Need better containers that don't evaporate and water more but less often. IMO
 
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Seedlings literally need hardly any light and can be fine. These are under a canopy of 4 average plants in a 2.5x2.5 and under 2x 200 watt CFL. They don't penetrate very much and are about 3 feet from the lights and under the canopy. Full size plants I keep 8 inches from the lights, for reference.
 
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mmcma17 said:
To be honest they look like almost too much light and / or overwatering. Even if they are bone dry, water too often can cause this, even if all conditions are perfect. Need better containers that don't evaporate and water more but less often. IMO
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They are about 2 ft from the light. Should I lower the light strength? Or maybe lessen the light times? Ok so I need to change containers too? These are meant to be able to put directly in to soil when ready. So should I go ahead and transplant them so they will stay wetter longer?
 
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mmcma17 said:
Those plant containers look bone dry. Those types of pots suck out moisture and evaporate quicker. Also it could be heat or light stress, over or under fed nutrients or wrong pH.
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I haven’t given any nutrients and I keep the ph level of the water between 6-7
 
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HSmith2412 said:
I haven’t given any nutrients and I keep the ph level of the water between 6-7
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Ph fine, nutrients should be fine assuming you gave only light doses. Light height depends on type of light. What do you use? Also I was just going through what I think it could be, if you did do something I mention, just go through and consider it checked off. More of a list to try and give ideas. You don't NEED to change containers but if you want to check problems off the list and do process of elimation, then I would. It wicks moisture away faster so if you feed the plants, the nutrients will be left in dirt before they can all get used and the pot dries out, which would lead to salt buildup so next time you water it would be over fed because some nutrients didn't get used. If you do have bigger containers you definitely could transplant and it could help.
 
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I started with those types of pots and moved on due to same water issues. I now use jiffy peat pods that expand in waters and hold moisture far longer and can also be transplanted directly to dirt. Pictured below. 20200406_100018.jpg
 
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If you are using led, and a good one, I would either dim it down for seedlings to like 50 percent at 2 feet, or raise it up. Leds much stronger than what I use and even I keep them at least 2 feet away. Also they are not stretching which signifies to me the light is close enough, so if anything move further away.
 
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mmcma17 said:
If you are using led, and a good one, I would either dim it down for seedlings to like 50 percent at 2 feet, or raise it up. Leds much stronger than what I use and even I keep them at least 2 feet away. Also they are not stretching which signifies to me the light is close enough, so if anything move further away.
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it’s a 600w hps light. It does give me options to lower the strength of the light. I’m going to transplant into a different container because I want to get the watering on track.
 
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That's probably a good idea. I know full-size plants 2 feet is fine for HPS but it is a seedling. I would atleast raise it a tiny bit maybe 6 inches or just dim. Repot probably a good idea and best bet. It could take care of a few issues at once. Good luck.
 
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