Grams per watt

[hybridway2]

If it is a knockoff, they don't know how to count very well.

The Spider Farmer 4000 has 1212 diodes

This AR4000 only has 872 diodes.
872 diodes is equivalent to the Spider Farmer 1000 (x4) which has 218 diodes x 4 boards = 872diodes.

Wonder the L/rating on a SF?
L/50, B/50? If that were the case as I suspect then itd deffinetly not worth even the lower price.. same goes with any light not following the basic expected (industry standard) degradation rates based on desighn. Even if not posted because not necessary rn unless Energy Star discounts apply & totally Fugazee. Still important to not make them to deprecate x2 as fast. Sometimes its as simple as a heat sink, others need active even when they think they dont because they compared to a manufactured product running hot. Thinking if that ir gun reading is close im good.
Reality is we need about 50• less then many are getting ontop of their fixtures to last.
Also a sealed diode enclosure. Remote or non direct mounted drivers & last but not least, farther diode spacing coupled with top-bin HE diodes mounted on a thick pcb (some copper under the diode) & possible a thermal interface. Why not? Trowel that shit on n screw down. Thats just a few examples.

 

[hybridway2]

10x10 1000w. Try it

Have you ever tried a big QB set to 230w over a 5x5. I have. Now therexwas some setoiuse gpw. Except that Damn Dyno-Gro

 

[ToneOZ]

Never messes with led

 

[Airwalker16]

Why would someone in the know try to light a 100 sq/ft area with a lamp that's capable of covering 25 sq/ft?

Not even. More like 16sq ft or a 4x4. That's about what 1,000W HPS can do.
Still don't get why you're claiming you can use 1,000W to cover a 10x10.

 

[spek9]

Not even. More like 16sq ft or a 4x4. That's about what 1,000W HPS can do.
Still don't get why you're claiming you can use 1,000W to cover a 10x10.

I always thought it did a 5x5'. Either way, I use a 1000W in my 4x4' anyhow.

That wasn't me who said it would do a 10x10'.

 

[JoeBlow5823]

Double ended 1000w HPS is enough for a 5x5. They are cranking out close to 30% more light. I run mine at 1100w.... just to be sure.

 

[Airwalker16]

Double ended 1000w HPS is enough for a 5x5. They are cranking out close to 30% more light. I run mine at 1100w.... just to be sure.

Well 16 sq ft to 25 is 63% more space

 

[Airwalker16]

I always thought it did a 5x5'. Either way, I use a 1000W in my 4x4' anyhow.

That wasn't me who said it would do a 10x10'.

Oh I know it wasn't you, buddy. Was responding to @ToneOZ

 

[JoeBlow5823]

Well 16 sq ft to 25 is 63% more space

Yup, thats why i crank her to 1100w to be safe. Gets me a real similar amount of light per square foot as a single end bulb in a 4x4 and for the extra 100w i should be getting about 50% more yield. Or "yield potential" i should say.

 

[JoeBlow5823]

Oh I know it wasn't you, buddy. Was responding to @ToneOZ

Bet i could grow clover or grass in a 10x10 with a single 1000w lol. Would have to devise some sort of complex light mover though.

 

[DaFreak]

Not even. More like 16sq ft or a 4x4. That's about what 1,000W HPS can do.
Still don't get why you're claiming you can use 1,000W to cover a 10x10.

Of course you. An use 1000 watt to cover 100, just gonna be some sad looking weed

 

[end_of_the_tunnel]

Bet i could grow clover or grass in a 10x10 with a single 1000w lol. Would have to devise some sort of complex light mover though.

Heres a twister. Heath Robinsons flooded tube vertical. 600w HPS, 86 plants yielding 46 oz at 8 weeks. It was a vertical setup. Funny thing is the grow area measured 4ft diameter. Distance from pot top on bottom row, to pot top on top row was 32". Plants looked like they finished around 14 inches.

Space/area changed dynamically, as the plants grew up and in towards the bare bulb.. That guy was always trying new things and was a true master.

Pity images were lost during rollitup migrations, but you can still see them https://www.wietforum.nl/topic/53631-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical/

 

[lukio]

where's ol rusty at, Mr 3gpw.

@rustyshaclkferd

 

[end_of_the_tunnel]

where's ol rusty at, Mr 3gpw.

@rustyshaclkferd

Radio silence, that guy.

 

[ToneOZ]

What do i know, waste your watts

 

[spek9]

What do i know, waste your watts

Well, you've been educated that yes, you're wasting watts by trying to use a 1000W lamp to cover a 10x10' space. I'll say you're now ahead of the game.

 

[Airwalker16]

What do i know, waste your watts

You actually believe you can use a 1000w HPS to flower a 10'x10' space don't you?

 

[Barristan Whitebeard]

You actually believe you can use a 1000w HPS to flower a 10'x10' space don't you?

Maybe he is a greenhouse grower attempting to transition to indoor, and he's trying to fool himself into thinking he doesn't need to buy more lights.

 

[end_of_the_tunnel]

Heath Robinson had some beautifully documented grows, and posted them on several forums. Growing trees or growing dense sog, he did it all. Lot of them hovered around or just below 2 g/w yield. The good old days of HID.

 

[Thundercat]

Heath Robinson had some beautifully documented grows, and posted them on several forums. Growing trees or growing dense sog, he did it all. Lot of them hovered around or just below 2 g/w yield. The good old days of HID.

Yep Heath is a boss!