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Raspberrykiwi

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How much you flush is a choice of course. Getting the spikes out so it doesn't keep on building up is a good start. Water will dilute what is in the soil.

When stable you can then decide how you might feed them in the future as needed.
I am just feeding them water right now. I’ll start flushing in about 10-15 minutes.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I received this plant in April and it looked like a string bean. The guy said it was the miracle gro organic black bag. Which I’ve thought it’s ok too. The spikes he added as well. During veg it was exploding with growth so fast it was crazy. No deficiencies that I noticed until it started flowering
The organic stuff sounds fine to me. I think your friend tried to love it too much, and now all that extra fertilizer is building up. Get rid of the spikes and give it lots of plain water.
 

Raspberrykiwi

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The organic stuff sounds fine to me. I think your friend tried to love it too much, and now all that extra fertilizer is building up. Get rid of the spikes and give it lots of plain water.
I just flushed what I would say is several gallons of water through it. It’s still currently running off. But I’m hopeful! I’ll let it dry out a tad bit and throw her back under the light. I’ll post updates if I notice anything
 

PadawanWarrior

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I just flushed what I would say is several gallons of water through it. It’s still currently running off. But I’m hopeful! I’ll let it dry out a tad bit and throw her back under the light. I’ll post updates if I notice anything
Let it dry out as much as you can before you water again. It's hard to flush organic nutes from the soil. If you water too much you could just be releasing more of them.
 

Kassiopeija

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Little update on how she’s doing. She has been watered 2 times since flush and I think she’s doing WAY better. Thickening up and PACKING the trichs on! Let me know what you guys think?
leaves still burn with nutes.

Now IFI were u, Id only use water for the rest of the grow, dont pull leaves, and move the light gradually closer.

All you can now is make the plant use up all that fert - give it strong light.

Plus, let dry out fairly well but water with 30% drain (to waste)
 

Raspberrykiwi

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leaves still burn with nutes.

Now IFI were u, Id only use water for the rest of the grow, dont pull leaves, and move the light gradually closer.

All you can now is make the plant use up all that fert - give it strong light.

Plus, let dry out fairly well but water with 30% drain (to waste)
I am letting it dry out. I’m not feeding it anything but water and have only fed her water. But I haven’t been watering until runoff because I don’t want to drench it. But I’ll water til I get run off next time
 

Skewbong

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I am letting it dry out. I’m not feeding it anything but water and have only fed her water. But I haven’t been watering until runoff because I don’t want to drench it. But I’ll water til I get run off next time
Make sure its good and dry before you water again, don't want to get root rot, or pests that like really wet soil. When I overwater accidentally....stoned and water the same plant twice...fuck! I just make sure my fan is pointing at the top of the pot for a few days to help it dry out a bit
 

Kassiopeija

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Just to elaborate a bit further.... so if a plants roots sit in a water solution that is actually too high in electrolytes (like if you feed pure Brawndo :blsmoke: ) the plant is going to shut out some of these electrolytes, and even spill some of these that were taken in, back.

But because the amount of water stays in this solution is getting more & more salty, and these salts crystalize directly around the roots at the rhizosphere. This can even happen in an organic grow - but sort of slower.
So usually you don't want to flush an organic growth, but in this case with a really sharp soil there simply isn't much else of what you could do...

Then for the next run stretch that soil down with a combination of (a) washed cocos (~30%) (b) bio charcoal NOT activated (so just charcoal broken down) (~10%) and (c) tiny clay pebbles (~10%) so the EC will likely decrease to 40-50% of what it is now.

Hope this helps you a bit
:bigjoint:
 

Raspberrykiwi

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It takes time to change, your plant looks about the same
The plant has definitely put out more leaves which means it is growing. The new leaves are not burning how the lower leaves were. When I first flipped to flower and buds started forming, the leaves at the very top started burning severely. After flushing the burning slowed significantly and started putting on more flower and leaves. It’s def gotten heavier since I flushed. The plant is most definitely not the same as it was
 

PadawanWarrior

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Just to elaborate a bit further.... so if a plants roots sit in a water solution that is actually too high in electrolytes (like if you feed pure Brawndo :blsmoke: ) the plant is going to shut out some of these electrolytes, and even spill some of these that were taken in, back.

But because the amount of water stays in this solution is getting more & more salty, and these salts crystalize directly around the roots at the rhizosphere. This can even happen in an organic grow - but sort of slower.
So usually you don't want to flush an organic growth, but in this case with a really sharp soil there simply isn't much else of what you could do...

Then for the next run stretch that soil down with a combination of (a) washed cocos (~30%) (b) bio charcoal NOT activated (so just charcoal broken down) (~10%) and (c) tiny clay pebbles (~10%) so the EC will likely decrease to 40-50% of what it is now.

Hope this helps you a bit
:bigjoint:
Great advice, but Brawndo has gotten expensive since the COVID shit. I'm paying like $26 a bottle now. But at a tsp per gal it does go a long ways. I can't afford to feed it straight anymore.
 
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