Advanced nutes micro grow & bloom

xtsho

Well-Known Member
Today is week 5 and I cut all N from here on! Thanks for the tip. Could you check on my journal and let me know where I can improve.

Plants still need N in flower just not as much.
 

AquaTerra

Well-Known Member
Similar. Not that it likely matters, but mine's more a white crystalline instead of yellow:


I got mine from @AquaTerra from is online shop: https://www.gardentech.ca/ (in fact, I got all of my powdered nutrients there).
MKP it comes in either a fine grain powder or salt size grain powder. Its all white crystalline color, anything else is food coloring or useless vitamin B Thiamine which plants make their own. If you see anything close to 0-52-34 its 99% MKP.
 

Sade

Well-Known Member
True vitamin B1 isn't absolutely necessary but still helps slightly.

Wow yea I really like the separate pure chemical compounds individual.
 

AquaTerra

Well-Known Member
True vitamin B1 isn't absolutely necessary but still helps slightly.

Wow yea I really like the separate pure chemical compounds individual.

NAA works but can mess things up. Plants make a large amount of their own B Thiamine. Most manufacturers use a study from like 70+ years ago to claim it does magic lol. Like MAP or Super Phosphate its a filler to make it sound more complex. So use to claim Feloxian G Red red food coloring was an activator for bud boosting lol
 

Sade

Well-Known Member
NAA works but can mess things up. Plants make a large amount of their own B Thiamine. Most manufacturers use a study from like 70+ years ago to claim it does magic lol. Like MAP or Super Phosphate its a filler to make it sound more complex. So use to claim Feloxian G Red red food coloring was an activator for bud boosting lol
Actually 2010 study showed that introducing thiamine which is possibly what helps with handling plant stress. So when more thiamine molecules present it actually causes a reaction that makes the plant produce even more thiamine for Vb1
 

Sade

Well-Known Member
Almost all bottled synthetic nutrients are the same, with slightly different makeup. I wouldn't say that AN is shit myself, as it does its job just as well as any other chelated nutrient solution.

Thing is, it's just so very much overpriced for what you get it's ridiculous. All bottled nutrients are.
Check out Humboldt county's own nutrients. They talk about the importance of separate chelate and other things as well. Tell you flushing agents are a scam and what not.
 

Yesyes3000

Well-Known Member
Actually 2010 study showed that introducing thiamine which is possibly what helps with handling plant stress. So when more thiamine molecules present it actually causes a reaction that makes the plant produce even more thiamine for Vb1
I use a vitamin booster from MBFERTS, I don’t know if it’s any good but it seems to have kept plants healthy .
 

spek9

Well-Known Member
Check out Humboldt county's own nutrients. They talk about the importance of separate chelate and other things as well. Tell you flushing agents are a scam and what not.
I just went online and looked for pricing. Their Sonic Bloom (MKP) is $38+ (USD) for 1 pound. I can't find it for anything less than that (mind you, I didn't search very hard). I got my MKP at $9.99 (CAN) for 1 Kg (2.2 pounds).

Seems as they utilize their name, childish product names, cartoon characters and even artificial colouring (as pointed out by AquaTerra earlier) to justify an outrageous price, like most other nutrient manufacturers.
 
Last edited:

Sade

Well-Known Member
I just went online and looked for pricing. Their Sonic Bloom (MKP) is $38+ (USD) for 1 pound. I can't find it for anything less than that (mind you, I didn't search very hard). I got my MKP at $9.99 (CAN) for 1 Kg (2.2 pounds).

Seems as they utilize their name, childish product names, cartoon characters and even artificial colouring (as pointed out by AquaTerra earlier) to justify an outrageous price, like most other nutrient manufacturers.
I mean shit man I'm pretty fucking happy with these results. Also he gives me half off I live in eureka and he's in fortuna. After adding everything the ph barely fluctuates and ppm is less than 600. Eventually though I do want to build my own super soil. One step at a time still learning about light spectrums.
20200706_214140.jpg20200706_214137.jpg20200706_214051.jpg
 

Sade

Well-Known Member
How much do you pay in total when paying half price?
Magnesium is like $12 gallon, with g10 being most expensive at $80 gallon. Damn dude why do you care how I spend my money. Thought you were hella cool earlier. Also I live in a one bedroom apartment. Kind if hard to build soils. Shit I give him free redwood and dougfir from the sawmill I work at so sometimes things are free.
 

spek9

Well-Known Member
Magnesium is like $12 gallon, with g10 being most expensive at $80 gallon. Damn dude why do you care how I spend my money. Thought you were hella cool earlier. Also I live in a one bedroom apartment. Kind if hard to build soils. Shit I give him free redwood and dougfir from the sawmill I work at so sometimes things are free.
I don't care how you choose to spend your money. I'm not insulting your choices in any way at all.

What I care about is future new growers who find this site get proper facts. I want them to know they don't need to spend literally 10 times the amount of money on the exact same product.

Remember that earlier in the thread I said I used GH Flora for several years. I am not opposed to people using whatever they want. I just want people to know their options.
 
Last edited:

Sade

Well-Known Member
I don't care how you choose to spend your money. I'm not insulting your choices in any way at all.

What I care about is pointing out to future new growers on this site getting proper facts. I want them to know they don't need to spend literally 10 times the amount of money on the exact same product.
I may have an area to build a soil and let cook. However I might wait until next grow and get the buckets mixed and cooking last month of next grow.
 
Top