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Apalchen

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How much more is the 225 than the 110? I honestly thing for a room this size that a 225 would get you where you need to be. I can't say for sure though and the rep might know better. I dislike the idea of buying a 110 pint because even if you added a second one of same size later you wouldn't have enough if the calculation is right.

If I was gonna buy a smaller one it would be the 155 so when you bought a second one you would have 310. Which should def get it done. Im not sure but I believe the 155 is their most efficient unit anyways.
 
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Apalchen said:
I'm pretty sure your estimate on water use is a little bit high. I just finished a run with 44 plants in a 12x24 room in 5 gallon pots. I used roughly 35-40 gallons a day of water. I got by with one 50 pint and one 70 pint but couldn't get the room to consistently stay under 60 %. It hung right around 60 % as the high mark. Remember the AC does remove a good bit of water but you can't really count on a set amount from it.

I forget but what size is your room, because 72 5 gallon pots just wouldn't comfortably fit in my 12x24 room considering how big plants get in 5 gallon pots. And I thought we had roughly the same size room if I remember correctly. It would for sure be tight.

The most I could see you watering even with the 72 plants is 72 gallons. If you had less plants then the 5 gallon pots might consume more water but you can only fit so much plant mass in a room of a given size.
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i had planed on doing a short veg and using the larger pots so i wasnt restricted by root growth at any point in time i think i had figured out that i had around 21" of canopy space for the plants. if i need to go down in pot size or plant amount i will but this is all subject to change as it works way differently in my head as it does in real life. my grow area will be 11x22 and more realistically only 10x20 will be for plants. i appreciate all the information. as this is all a learning experience for me. i think ill stick with 2 floor units and the overhead. and maybe i can reduce my pot size with this information.
 
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Renfro said:
I typically water my 10 gallon pots with 1/3rd of a 5 gallon bucket or 1.66 gal.
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Yeah that almost exactly converts over for me as well I water at most 40 gallons a day in 44 5 gallon pots. Which is like .8 gallons per pot.

Your in double the size of my pots and use double the amount of water I do per plant.

Anyways pretty sure 2 gallons per 5 gallon pot would be quite excessive.
 
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Gwhiliker

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Renfro said:
I typically water my 10 gallon pots with 1/3rd of a 5 gallon bucket or 1.66 gal.
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i thought i was supposed to have around 20% run off on my plants?
Apalchen said:
How much more is the 225 than the 110? I honestly thing for a room this size that a 225 would get you where you need to be. I can't say for sure though and the rep might know better. I dislike the idea of buying a 110 pint because even if you added a second one of same size later you wouldn't have enough if the calculation is right.

If I was gonna buy a smaller one it would be the 155 so when you bought a second one you would have 310. Which should def get it done. Im not sure but I believe the 155 is their most efficient unit anyways.
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im at around a 13-15k budget for everything. if i only get 2 70 pint honewell units and the 110 i would be right at 15.2k with everything. this allows me to make due until i can expand
 
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Gwhiliker said:
i had planed on doing a short veg and using the larger pots so i wasnt restricted by root growth at any point in time i think i had figured out that i had around 21" of canopy space for the plants. if i need to go down in pot size or plant amount i will but this is all subject to change as it works way differently in my head as it does in real life. my grow area will be 11x22 and more realistically only 10x20 will be for plants. i appreciate all the information. as this is all a learning experience for me. i think ill stick with 2 floor units and the overhead. and maybe i can reduce my pot size with this information.
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I love 3 gallon pots for short veg and then flower, I run 9 plants per light when I do 3 gallon pots.

That's the way I grew for years.

Gwhiliker said:
well then im an idiot because ive been giving my 4 gallon pots about 1.75 gallons every 2 days
ahhh learning curves
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Your not an idiot but divide the number in half since it's every other day. And I find 20% run off to be a waste, I did that when first started as well. 10% percent run off works just fine.

Hell I sometimes go quite a while without run off but I don't recommend it til you really dial your feeds.
 
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Apalchen said:
I love 3 gallon pots for short veg and then flower, I run 9 plants per light when I do 3 gallon pots.

That's the way I grew for years.


Your not an idiot but divide the number in half since it's every other day. And I find 20% run off to be a waste, I did that when first started as well. 10% percent run off works just fine.

Hell I sometimes go quite a while without run off but I don't recommend it til you really dial your feeds.
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awesome this is gonna save me some money! and a lot of water!
Renfro said:
I get about 20% runoff using peat based soiless mixes. If you have something with a lot of vermiculite then you may need more water but less often.
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ill be using the ProMix BX microhazae blend. i heard it retains moisture really well, i was hoping it would work well with the extra lighting
 
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DOH! Lol. I didn't think to ask what kinda medium before giving advice on run off. Sorry man.

In fact you might want to get advice from @Renfro on pot size as well. I honestly can't grow in soil very well. And I'm not certain about promix but I think it's similar to soil and those guys generally run larger pots than I do.

I run a mix of coco, coco loco and perilite. It's just the mix I've landed on over the years and I've tried different things like straight coco or straight coco loco, but always end up going back to this mix because I have such great results from it. I originally was growing in small tents and when I went to reload one I had some coco loco setting around cause I used it for mothers, so I used it with some coco, didn't feel as airy as I wanted so added some perilite. I noticed in that crop that during transplants that I wasn't stalling out as hard as my plants do in a coco/perilite mix therefore cutting about a week off my veg and just overall healthier plants going into flower. I still water like I did in coco/perilite mix.

Sorry for not thinking about what medium before giving advice. I would say I been smoking too much but that's not even a good excuse been too busy for much of that either. Lol.
 
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Gwhiliker

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Apalchen said:
DOH! Lol. I didn't think to ask what kinda medium before giving advice on run off. Sorry man.

In fact you might want to get advice from @Renfro on pot size as well. I honestly can't grow in soil very well. And I'm not certain about promix but I think it's similar to soil and those guys generally run larger pots than I do.

I run a mix of coco, coco loco and perilite. It's just the mix I've landed on over the years and I've tried different things like straight coco or straight coco loco, but always end up going back to this mix because I have such great results from it. I originally was growing in small tents and when I went to reload one I had some coco loco setting around cause I used it for mothers, so I used it with some coco, didn't feel as airy as I wanted so added some perilite. I noticed in that crop that during transplants that I wasn't stalling out as hard as my plants do in a coco/perilite mix therefore cutting about a week off my veg and just overall healthier plants going into flower. I still water like I did in coco/perilite mix.

Sorry for not thinking about what medium before giving advice. I would say I been smoking too much but that's not even a good excuse been too busy for much of that either. Lol.
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i appreciate everything you guys have both said. this is all a big learning experience. either way i should be fine i think, but i would definitely appreciate rens idea on the pot size. i wanted to grow about 9 plants per 5x5 area
 
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Thats about all I can find on Cobalt as a cannabis nutrient. And we all know their articles are iffy at best lol. I can say that in 30 years of growing I have never heard of a cobalt deficiency lol. I would be concerned about heavy metal buildup if cobalt was present in any significant amount.
 
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