Thug pug genetics anyone?

Dividedsky

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I'm gonna turn away from NFTG soon, way too much work, too many bottles, too much slurry, the PH drops hard in late flower....
Love the results but I feel like I ought to be paid to use them from the amount of work involved. 2 more runs before I can afford to experiment.

I was thinking of canna for soil and autowater. Back is about done hand watering after all these years.
And agreed - PH important regardless of any line.
You got that right, NFTG is so many bottles and expensive, also a pain in the ass. If you thinking of running it, you might as well just run a full organic living soil with all the goodies and bennies. Just water with tea once in a while, had killer results that way.

Lucas formula kicks ass by the way! I found when growing-less is more and the simplest is the best. All you need is a is a proper NPK ratio for each stage of plant growth. I've gotten killer results with what some consider old school bottle nutes, such as dyna grow.
 

Dividedsky

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i liked OES. i never had a problem before and i like that he accepts cards. hate sending cash. he ships quickly too. taking you for 20 though... i don't like that. recently he's playing too much with manipulating prices, pulling stock to look as though it is low and then restocking the next day at higher prices. would love to support a better business model without sending cash. do treestars and lucious accept card? terpy gets a lot of love on IG. might switch over. anyone have bad business with terpy?
Teeestar accepts zelle thru bankofmerica which is pretty easy
 

Misterpfffff

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This next run I'm cutting out most of the extras.... just Gaia/Medusa, Demeters, Zues Juice, Herculean Harvest, Olympus Up. And SLF100 and Photosythn, but that's it.
No more perspeph and aphrodites and tritons and kraken, etc. Poseidon only for foliar as I noticed nothing when adding it to my feed regimen in flower.
 

LeftOurEyes

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This next run I'm cutting out most of the extras.... just Gaia/Medusa, Demeters, Zues Juice, Herculean Harvest, Olympus Up. And SLF100 and Photosythn, but that's it.
No more perspeph and aphrodites and tritons and kraken, etc. Poseidon only for foliar as I noticed nothing when adding it to my feed regimen in flower.
That's kinda what I was doing, I only used like 6 or 7 of their nutes, not the whole line. I used Gaia/Medusa, Demeter, Zeus, Herculean, Morpheus, Aphrodities and Olympus Up along with SLF100 and Photosynthesis plus.

Isn't Triton's Trawl basically the same thing as the Herculean? According to their description they are both bone meal but just from different sources. I know their description for it says that it can be used to enhance Herculean but that sounds like it's just to sell more.
 

Dividedsky

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That's kinda what I was doing, I only used like 6 or 7 of their nutes, not the whole line. I used Gaia/Medusa, Demeter, Zeus, Herculean, Morpheus, Aphrodities and Olympus Up along with SLF100 and Photosynthesis plus.

Isn't Triton's Trawl basically the same thing as the Herculean? According to their description they are both bone meal but just from different sources. I know their description for it says that it can be used to enhance Herculean but that sounds like it's just to sell more.
Pretty much HH is pretty much just pricey liquid bone-meal. TT is fish bone-meal so my guess is- its pretty close. NPK are slightly different
 

Misterpfffff

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That's kinda what I was doing, I only used like 6 or 7 of their nutes, not the whole line. I used Gaia/Medusa, Demeter, Zeus, Herculean, Morpheus, Aphrodities and Olympus Up along with SLF100 and Photosynthesis plus.

Isn't Triton's Trawl basically the same thing as the Herculean? According to their description they are both bone meal but just from different sources. I know their description for it says that it can be used to enhance Herculean but that sounds like it's just to sell more.
Yeah they're close - but Scott from nectar has mentioned that Tritons was made originally for whoever doesn't mind fish bone but has something against normal bonemeal....I forget what demographic that applied to....

But he said they then found (and I could be slightly incorrect I forget the exact wording) that the TT bottle has a specific unique amino acid chain that somehow helps influence color, with some people running side by sides with Herc on one side and TT on the other. The Herc buds were larger and the TT had noticeably more color and brought out the terps more.

So they say you can run either - or you can run both together to get the yield while getting the color also.
I noticed a lot of dark purpling when I've used Tritons but can't state that it wouldn't have been there without it since I always do pheno hunts instead of same cuts.
 

FrostyBison

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Pretty much HH is pretty much just pricey liquid bone-meal. TT is fish bone-meal so my guess is- its pretty close. NPK are slightly different
Tritons was originally made for Nectar to offer customers a liquid calcium source that wasn't sourced from mammals. Triton's also has fish aminos which herc doesn't and Athena's Aminas are basically gelatin sourced from hooves.
NFTG has a ton of pro's and cons but after getting my feed dialed in I've never been happier. I've just started playing with adding Bloom Khaos to the feeds in flower and now i get why people go so heavy on the herc
 

FrostyBison

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Yeah they're close - but Scott from nectar has mentioned that Tritons was made originally for whoever doesn't mind fish bone but has something against normal bonemeal....I forget what demographic that applied to....

But he said they then found (and I could be slightly incorrect I forget the exact wording) that the TT bottle has a specific unique amino acid chain that somehow helps influence color, with some people running side by sides with Herc on one side and TT on the other. The Herc buds were larger and the TT had noticeably more color and brought out the terps more.

So they say you can run either - or you can run both together to get the yield while getting the color also.
I noticed a lot of dark purpling when I've used Tritons but can't state that it wouldn't have been there without it since I always do pheno hunts instead of same cuts.
Well said lol. I think Scott was dancing around not calling out vegetarians with his description of the TT demo lol.
 

Trillmatic420

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Sup guys, long time reader. First time poster.
Just thought id drop off some thug pics, grown with Remo nutrients in a 4 x 8 tent under two 315w philips 3000k lamps. Pbb and garlic butter, all came out hilariously dense and nutty smelling. I germinated one single garlic butter seed and turned out that pheno! Like a jacked up forum gsc. Yielded 2oz during hunt which is acceptable numbers per plant in my setup.

Pbb#1 ogkb heavy
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Pbb#3
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Garlic butter
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Honorable mention: Grease Monkey bagseed cut
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DarthPlagueis

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what organics are you using? i recently switched to bio-bizz but i'm not impressed for the price tag. i got them locally for 50% off or i wouldn't have even tried.
I did the Clackamas recipe and have been pretty good for about 2 years now. Added some worm poop and frass for a top dressing. Occasionally a tea. Fish fertilizer if they are in small cups. Nothing crazy. I seeded my clone tent with meatbreath. I'll show you some pics. I think my seeded flower looks better than most people's normal flower
I use jacks hydro 321 method. Nothing in a bottle is even close If you are looking for value. I triedThe Lucas formula, but get much better results with Jacks. You will definitely have to PH. Ph is crucial in coco, I would check ph before I fed no matter what I used.
Yeah you gotta pH if you're doing hydro
 

BigSco508

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i liked OES. i never had a problem before and i like that he accepts cards. hate sending cash. he ships quickly too. taking you for 20 though... i don't like that. recently he's playing too much with manipulating prices, pulling stock to look as though it is low and then restocking the next day at higher prices. would love to support a better business model without sending cash. do treestars and lucious accept card? terpy gets a lot of love on IG. might switch over. anyone have bad business with terpy?
My Man terpy is the Truth if he had everything i wanted i would never ever Ever Ever ever use another one of these Clown ass seed banks again! But i have been rocking with him a long time since the red black lumber jacks with the hat to match type shit so i get special treatment . And OES is a Clown !
 

Misterpfffff

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My Man terpy is the Truth if he had everything i wanted i would never ever Ever Ever ever use another one of these Clown ass seed banks again! But i have been rocking with him a long time since the red black lumber jacks with the hat to match type shit so i get special treatment . And OES is a Clown !
Terpy lost me haha, he had me until a pug drop came and I asked him what the stock was....he said "gimi a couple minutes"... then later on that day I asked again (didnt wana be pushy) and he said he had posted it in his story...and everything had sold out on the site already. Well - I don't follow him so I didn't see the story anyway.

I thought he was gonna let me know what he had, or at least say 'its on the site' or something. Inquired 5 mins before it happened and missed out.
Not that I needed more beans.

I'm back to GLO.
 

BigSco508

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Terpy lost me haha, he had me until a pug drop came and I asked him what the stock was....he said "gimi a couple minutes"... then later on that day I asked again (didnt wana be pushy) and he said he had posted it in his story...and everything had sold out on the site already. Well - I don't follow him so I didn't see the story anyway.

I thought he was gonna let me know what he had, or at least say 'its on the site' or something. Inquired 5 mins before it happened and missed out.
Not that I needed more beans.

I'm back to GLO.
Wow that sucks GLO is crushing dudes souls with the deals right now too.
 

Misterpfffff

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Wow that sucks GLO is crushing dudes souls with the deals right now too.
Oh man...I just bought 2 packs of Lime Cake for 150 a piece (one pack they put in 17 beans for me because I mentioned a sale somewhere on them)
and now GLO just put them up for 115 per. That hurtssss! I got them direct from Swamp Boys website too.
Almost makes me wana grab a third, but with one being a 17-pack I don't think I need it.
 

Renne

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Speaking of GLO I finally got my tracking number today after 33 days, I'm in Canada and was the only place I could order a pack of TKS1 from CSI, longest I've ever had to wait and I know w covid things are taking a long time, just when paying over $230 Can for 6 beans and with the GLO reviews online a person worries,
Anyways I finally got a female out of my Peanut Butter Crunch popped 6 seeds as I didn't have much space and had 5 males, some real stinkers though unreal dirty diaper cherry funk on the stem rub.
The plant that ended up being female the lower branches were all the same height as the tops never seen a plant w branching like that.
 

loop718

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Who here grows in coco and what are they using i hand water because a rez is a pain in the ass to clean any suggestions would be great been using Advance Nutrients because i'm lazy and would rather pay the extra $$ to not have to PH but i'm almost out and am thinking of trying something else but remember i'm lazy.
At least ur honest lolololol.
That's kinda what I was doing, I only used like 6 or 7 of their nutes, not the whole line. I used Gaia/Medusa, Demeter, Zeus, Herculean, Morpheus, Aphrodities and Olympus Up along with SLF100 and Photosynthesis plus.

Isn't Triton's Trawl basically the same thing as the Herculean? According to their description they are both bone meal but just from different sources. I know their description for it says that it can be used to enhance Herculean but that sounds like it's just to sell more.
triton is fish bone meal with a small amino acid to it amazing stuff really pushes the gas out of plants towards the end. But watch out if it off gasses ur house will smell like the back side of a fish market in queens ny.
 

BigSco508

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I did the Clackamas recipe and have been pretty good for about 2 years now. Added some worm poop and frass for a top dressing. Occasionally a tea. Fish fertilizer if they are in small cups. Nothing crazy. I seeded my clone tent with meatbreath. I'll show you some pics. I think my seeded flower looks better than most people's normal flower

Yeah you gotta pH if you're doing hydro
Did the whole living soil thing at 1st Clackamas Coots Nut pack deal from BuildaSoil it's great it's just such a pain in the ass to make Compost Tea's and Bean Sprout was like fml i gotta spend 2 days brewing Worm Shit and Fish guts + compost
 

eastcoastled

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I did the Clackamas recipe and have been pretty good for about 2 years now. Added some worm poop and frass for a top dressing. Occasionally a tea. Fish fertilizer if they are in small cups. Nothing crazy. I seeded my clone tent with meatbreath. I'll show you some pics. I think my seeded flower looks better than most people's normal flower

Yeah you gotta pH if you're doing hydro
I’m in coco. Jacks hydro is the name of the base salt. Coco is basically a form of hydro so I don’t know how people get around the ph part. I have a hard time believing any bottled nute is exactly the same from the first pour to the last pour.
 
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