Tim Fox
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Go Ducks
Oregon Outdoor, 2020
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Hello we are fans also
We also like to keep up with Marcus just hope he will get his chance. It's misting out now and i have some autos that stay on our roof because of all day sun. I move them when it's too hot but it's a great environment been real helpful. I have 3 lemon haze autos within days to harvest so they are getting a light shower not real concerned. My photos that have reverted back from early flower have lots of catching up to do. Yep last year was a nightmare for outdoor these will go into the shelter logic green house to finish.
graying.geek
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Since most of us start our summer grow indoors then move to outside in May, I'm curious how others handle their lights schedule to avoid the problem of plants starting to flower when they're transitioned to outdoors. With Indicas and hybrids it doesn't seem to be too much of an issue but the last 2 summers I've tried Sativas outdoors and they seem much more sensitive to light schedule changes, all of them stretching like crazy and one even going into full flower in early June, even though the night length was <10 hrs when they were put out.
After experiencing a huge stretch in May last year I thought I'd be clever and start the girls indoors mid-April and move them outside while they're still immature. My thinking was that the "stretch" is tied to sexual maturity, but no go. No flowers developed but tall, spindly, stretched plants was (again) the outcome.
I assume the best way to avoid this is to keep them on a 14.5/9.5 schedule from seed, then the outdoor dark hours will equal the indoor schedule when they're put out and they should just continue with a normal veg. Alternatively, I guess I could just start them outside in a greenhouse and let them deal the weather, but not optimal growing conditions.
I suppose it doesn't harm anything, but right now I have 3 8-foot girls in the garden which doesn't do much for stealth and makes it a bitch to manage since the tops are so high. What do you all do?
After experiencing a huge stretch in May last year I thought I'd be clever and start the girls indoors mid-April and move them outside while they're still immature. My thinking was that the "stretch" is tied to sexual maturity, but no go. No flowers developed but tall, spindly, stretched plants was (again) the outcome.
I assume the best way to avoid this is to keep them on a 14.5/9.5 schedule from seed, then the outdoor dark hours will equal the indoor schedule when they're put out and they should just continue with a normal veg. Alternatively, I guess I could just start them outside in a greenhouse and let them deal the weather, but not optimal growing conditions.
I suppose it doesn't harm anything, but right now I have 3 8-foot girls in the garden which doesn't do much for stealth and makes it a bitch to manage since the tops are so high. What do you all do?
Houstini
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Nothing outside before June 1 unless it’s very small. Bigger indoor veg plants don’t always outperform smaller ones if you have enough soil
Humanrob
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Nice architecture! I love that roof.
Humanrob
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Not sure, but I believe Sativas prefer a lot of light, both in intensity and duration. How many hours of direct sunlight do your plants get per day? They are by nature "stretchier" plants, but they could be stretching even more because they simply aren't getting enough light. I tried to grow heavily Sativa dominant hybrids in my first outdoor, they needed way too much time in flower and never fully matured before late October weather covered them in mold. I also topped them 3 or 4 times to keep them shorter which made their branches thinner and the buds smaller, but at least the height was manageable. I ended out moving to more balanced hybrids after that, our outdoor grow season just wasn't long enough for 10+ week flowering times. Have you had issues with long flower times with your Sativas? Maybe it was just the strains I tried...
graying.geek
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Now THAT is a nice setup for our environment. I'll be dreaming about putting a frame like that over my raised beds and growing into November. Good work!
graying.geek
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An interesting point and you probably hit on my primary problem. Living in an oak grove I have limited direct sun with the garden area only getting ~3 hrs/day and the remainder in filtered/partial shade. Seems to have a minimal impact on hybrids but different story with the Sativas. Despite the limited light, I still manage to harvest 6-8 oz / plant.
Oh, yes. Sativas are definitely a different animal, but with significant variability in flowering time. Durban Poison from Dutch Passion or Sensi are both so heavily worked they make a good choice for finishing here in early October outdoors. Unfortunately, in their quest to shorten flowering and a probable focus on THC they seem to have lost a lot of the Sativa characteristics that growers want. In my case I'm hunting THCV and none of the Durbans I've grown from Dutch Passion seem to have any significant levels. Other strains that show promise for THCV -- Malawi, Wild Thai, other SE Asian Sativas -- have excruciatingly long flowering so even finishing 2 cycles a year indoors would be a challenge, but I just finished a Malawi (14+ weeks of flowering!) and plan to start some Wild Thai in September. We'll see.: said:
Kilimanjaro and S.A. Kwazulus from WoS are both advertised to be 100% Sativas with 8-9 week flowering times, but I have a Kilimanjaro in my garden now and it is the last to start flowering so I have serious doubts about a finish by mid-October. I expect I'll move to a 3-cycle annual grow, doing 2 cycles of Sativas indoors and 1 of hybrids for my outdoor grow.
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Lovely grow house.
The roof top is flat i stick autos up there in 3&5 gal. fabric....yes i move them out in shade when it's above 90f. These are lemon skunk auto flowers.
The one's in the wagon are 3 photos that flowered early but i have to move them around do to large forest of fir & oaks block the sun. Those are 15 & 20 gal. with many holes drilled in. I can lift those easier than fabric with handles. I'm 63yr old Granny and my hubby is 72. He helps with the lifting. We still do everything of course he's out cutting wood at 0700 and back home by noon. He's pretty dang fit and he's even had a mild stroke.
Humanrob
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Cannabis is amazing in how well it can grow in limited light, more light is better, but they'll produce in way less light than some veggies in our garden.
I was doing that cycle for a while, using the excess to make hash, tinctures, and edibles. Our household overall consumption has gone down, so then I went to one winter and one summer, now I'm thinking if I have a really good summer, that crop might carry us through the year.
Tim Fox
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Looks fantastic
Hello outdoor growers in Oregon these are 2 lemon skunk autos 78days from seed. They are in 3gal. fabric with my soil i mix for my outdoor plants. Trichomes are showing cloudy not sure if these amber up i've not run many haze or skunks and the haze autos i just harvested showed only cloudy for nearly 10days so i took them down at 88days. These are freebie seed given to me by a breeder they smell wonderful high like a lemon should. Hope all is well cooler and breezy on the Umpqua this day nice for a change.
Humanrob
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One of the issues with bug netting is that it cuts down on natural breeze airflow. That combined with my over-crowding a bit and not really trimming them... and I started to see bud rot on a few buds, so I took a couple that were impacted down and uncovered the rest. After the first trim and hanging to dry, I would guess I lost about 10% of those plants to rot.
The ones that came down were pretty much ready, it's about 11 weeks from sprouting so that's kind of on schedule for these autos. I would have liked to have given them another week to see if they would fatten up more, but I think they were fine to come down. The remaining ones will probably come down in around a week, so if moths hit them I guess we'll just smoke the eggs, I don't think they'll have time to hatch.
These autos don't create very dense buds, at least not outdoors (haven't tried them indoors yet), but they are nice and frosty. I threw the gallon jug in there as a size reference, one pic is the smallest one, the other is one of the larger ones, there can be a LOT of variation between them. To be fair, that smallest one is next to a structure which cuts about an hour of sunlight out compared to the others, but still, it's the runt of the litter.
The ones that came down were pretty much ready, it's about 11 weeks from sprouting so that's kind of on schedule for these autos. I would have liked to have given them another week to see if they would fatten up more, but I think they were fine to come down. The remaining ones will probably come down in around a week, so if moths hit them I guess we'll just smoke the eggs, I don't think they'll have time to hatch.
These autos don't create very dense buds, at least not outdoors (haven't tried them indoors yet), but they are nice and frosty. I threw the gallon jug in there as a size reference, one pic is the smallest one, the other is one of the larger ones, there can be a LOT of variation between them. To be fair, that smallest one is next to a structure which cuts about an hour of sunlight out compared to the others, but still, it's the runt of the litter.
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