Nutrients

Tayjwashy

Member
What did you s*** in your pot

I feed every watering, they drink a lot less in the end, so I just feed and water a lot less
That seems to be the opposite of what I have heard and most people do. So your saying you never flush your plants?
 

dunphy

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I have but not anymore

It's been proven that flushing is broscience, and it is just flushing money down the drain
Can you elaborate on this?

I havent grown with salts in years so I havent been keeping up with it at all, but do you guys not flush anymore I thought that was more for outdoor/soil organic growers.

I havent flushed plants in years but thought it was at least still commonplace for the synth salt nute guys..:confused:
 

Oakiey

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Can you elaborate on this?

I havent grown with salts in years so I havent been keeping up with it at all, but do you guys not flush anymore I thought that was more for outdoor/soil organic growers.

I havent flushed plants in years but thought it was at least still commonplace for the synth salt nute guys..:confused:
There's dozens of flushing threads out there
 

Renfro

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I like to transition to a ripening feed. Lower in PPM but still providing P&K plus sulfur and such for terpene production.
 

Renfro

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"Flushing is for toilets" is like "about a pound".

One thread asking the age old new guy questions about flushing and the other saying "guess the yield".
 

dunphy

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It's been proven that flushing is broscience, and it is just flushing money down the drain
There's dozens of flushing threads out there
Probably hundreds...



Yeah I know... Im curious what YOU believe to be the point where it was debunked/found to be broscience... Didnt think you were talking about a forum thread though... I thought you were referring to an actual scientific study.

Thanks though
 

Oakiey

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The study has been posted in dozens of threads

It basically states that people like unflushed smoke better, once the nutrients are in the buds there are not coming out, and flushing causes heavy metal build up,
 

dunphy

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The study has been posted in dozens of threads

It basically states that people like unflushed smoke better, once the nutrients are in the buds there are not coming out, and flushing causes heavy metal build up,
Hmm Ive been on here almost every day for 15 years or so now, Ive never seen any actual studies posted here... Do you know who did the study? Can you send me a link if you've got a minute?.... Cursory search for actual studies didnt turn up anything for me... Appreciate it.
 

xtsho

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CONCLUSION
In a first of its kind study, Rx Green Technologies evaluated the effects of flushing period on yield, potency, terpenes, mineral content, and taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Overall, the length of the flushing period did not impact yield, potency, terpenes, or taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Taste test results indicated a trend toward improved flavor and smoke quality with the zero-day flush. While there were no significant differences in nutrient content, there was a trend toward increased iron and zinc in flower flushed for 14 days. The results of this trial indicate that there is no benefit to flushing Cannabis flower for improved taste or consumer experience.



Some of the biggest proponents these days for flushing are nutrient companies selling bottles of sugar water and epsom salts for $20.
 

Herb & Suds

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CONCLUSION
In a first of its kind study, Rx Green Technologies evaluated the effects of flushing period on yield, potency, terpenes, mineral content, and taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Overall, the length of the flushing period did not impact yield, potency, terpenes, or taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Taste test results indicated a trend toward improved flavor and smoke quality with the zero-day flush. While there were no significant differences in nutrient content, there was a trend toward increased iron and zinc in flower flushed for 14 days. The results of this trial indicate that there is no benefit to flushing Cannabis flower for improved taste or consumer experience.



Some of the biggest proponents these days for flushing are nutrient companies selling bottles of sugar water and epsom salts for $20.
You can lead a horse to water...
 

HydroKid239

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Hmm Ive been on here almost every day for 15 years or so now, Ive never seen any actual studies posted here... Do you know who did the study? Can you send me a link if you've got a minute?.... Cursory search for actual studies didnt turn up anything for me... Appreciate it.
 

dunphy

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Appreciate the links.... I thought it was known that this wouldnt have any significant affect on the buds themselves Thought that was well known for awhile now... But I had thought the synth salt guys still flushed for their mediums sake and avoiding any toxic build up of salts or preventing any lock out issues.... Not so much for any benefit toward taste/potency/yield/ash or burnabilty.

Id be interested to read about the subject and any results of any bigger trials or studies. This RX Green Tech study was only 1 strain, and only in Coco.. Also they were testing for yield/potency and taste which can be highly subjective.. Most people I know that smoke dont go that indepth that they would have any real opinion on a taste test or something unless the difference between Sample A and Sample B was extremely different, like mids vs.top shelf or something.


Also interested to know the levels of chlorophyll in the leaves, as the study noted the 14 and 10 day flushes had more necrotic leaves indicating more chlorophyll break down before harvest, But the levels were never tested during the dry after harvest.
as noted there were no significant differences in nutrient content, there was a trend toward increased iron and zinc in flower flushed for 14 days
which can be associated with the higher breakdown of chlorophyll as Fe and zinc are assoc. with the breakdown. But either way... would love to see a bigger study and something more focused on the medium and during harvest and drying/cure levels. Especially with more than the one strain.

Interesting read for sure, for anyone that wants to see the details of the links these guys posted, heres a little breakdown of the experiment, but doesnt address who and how many panelists for the taste test there were.
 
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xtsho

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Appreciate the links.... I thought it was known that this wouldnt have any significant affect on the buds themselves Thought that was well known for awhile now... But I had thought the synth salt guys still flushed for their mediums sake and avoiding any toxic build up of salts or preventing any lock out issues.... Not so much for any benefit toward taste/potency/yield/ash or burnabilty.

Id be interested to read about the subject and any results of any bigger trials or studies. This RX Green Tech study was only 1 strain, and only in Coco.. Also they were testing for yield/potency and taste which can be highly subjective.. Most people I know that smoke dont go that indepth that they would have any real opinion on a taste test or something unless the difference between Sample A and Sample B was extremely different, like mids vs.top shelf or something.
I grow in coco with salts using blumats for irrigation so never any runoff. I don't flush but just taper down the nutrient strength towards the end. I've never had any complaints with the finished product. In fact I've had friends over with their dispensary bought weed and they always end up smoking my stash because it's better all round. Taste, smell quality, etc...

I've been growing for decades and have never flushed any weed I've grown and even back when I was growing to sell everyone always commented on how delicious my weed was. Coming from a background that includes 5 decades of gardening the concept of flushing never crossed my mind because scientifically it doesn't make sense. And then when you see companies like AN pushing flushing in order to sell bottles of water with some sugar mixed in it's obvious that they're just trying to sell products with their misinformation. They have pages of articles devoted to promoting flushing using their products. It's quite a joke but if someone wants to starve their plants and reduce yield that's their choice.
 
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