White Widow "nugs" forming in veg

Umbra40

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Hey guys. I've got a few different strains growing under blurple panels. I'm LSTing them and contorting them all different ways while I wait for everything I need to set up some quantum boards to light these proper. I've also topped them. I figure I'm about 90 days from sowing and I realize these are tiny plants given their age. Im hoping to really pick things up with proper lighting.

The other strains are more in line with what I'd expect. Mostly leaves with a handful of milky white pistils. However, the two white Widow plants are shorter, squattier and are packing on the pistils seemingly at the expense of vegetative growth. They reek too.

I checked my timer and my lights on was shorter than I thought. It's only 14.5 on and 9.5 off, but they're just on the shelf at the moment and my room light are typically on another couple hours, so it's not like all of that is undisturbed darkness.

Supposedly they were regular seeds from seedsman. I did have a male from the few that I sowed and he grew viable pollen sacks early. I was thinking this was because I kept him in a small container (I heard that is a good way to have it panic and pollen quicker). I kept him in an isolation container.

Is this completely normal? I have three other strains under the same conditions right now and they're growing expectedly. The only noteworthy difference is those are feminized while the white Widow are regular. Could these somehow be autos? I'm at 90 days. I'm going to Google the time frame for those now because I don't know about them.
 

Silky T

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Hey guys. I've got a few different strains growing under blurple panels. I'm LSTing them and contorting them all different ways while I wait for everything I need to set up some quantum boards to light these proper. I've also topped them. I figure I'm about 90 days from sowing and I realize these are tiny plants given their age. Im hoping to really pick things up with proper lighting.

The other strains are more in line with what I'd expect. Mostly leaves with a handful of milky white pistils. However, the two white Widow plants are shorter, squattier and are packing on the pistils seemingly at the expense of vegetative growth. They reek too.

I checked my timer and my lights on was shorter than I thought. It's only 14.5 on and 9.5 off, but they're just on the shelf at the moment and my room light are typically on another couple hours, so it's not like all of that is undisturbed darkness.

Supposedly they were regular seeds from seedsman. I did have a male from the few that I sowed and he grew viable pollen sacks early. I was thinking this was because I kept him in a small container (I heard that is a good way to have it panic and pollen quicker). I kept him in an isolation container.

Is this completely normal? I have three other strains under the same conditions right now and they're growing expectedly. The only noteworthy difference is those are feminized while the white Widow are regular. Could these somehow be autos? I'm at 90 days. I'm going to Google the time frame for those now because I don't know about them.
Wow, are you sure you didn't accidentally give that plant nutes for flowering plants by mistake and cause it to start flowering? I have some nutes just for flowering and waited til I saw some flowers before I started using it and boy what difference. Everybody is flowering nicely now. I grow outside so my plants are on a different schedule. I was thinking of lighting also.
 

BobThe420Builder

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Wow, are you sure you didn't accidentally give that plant nutes for flowering plants by mistake and cause it to start flowering? I have some nutes just for flowering and waited til I saw some flowers before I started using it and boy what difference. Everybody is flowering nicely now. I grow outside so my plants are on a different schedule. I was thinking of lighting also.
Dosent work that way , seriously, you think bloom nutes make it flower..lol

Need 12/12 to induce flowers, or an Auto plant
 

Umbra40

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It's an auto
It's an auto
I'm getting the feeling you're right and these was a mixup on their end. The packet says they're regular and I got males, but maybe they are autos. It sucks because I got them specifically so I can play with breeding. I guess I'll know in a week or two when the others gap it. I've been feeding them veg nuts this whole time. I'm gonna have pitiful yields, but hopefully it's smokeable atleast lol
 

Umbra40

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The others are not autos, do they may turn out just fine
Interestingly enough there's another plant from a seed from the same pack and growing more like how I'd expect it to. If there was a mix up all bets are off, but might this white Widow be a regular photo period one? It's hard to tell from the two pictures, but there's two plants one in each pot. One is the suspected auto and one is the suspected photo. Both supposedly white widow seeds from the same "regular" pack.
 

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Umbra40

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It's not a photo if yer not at 12/12 lighting


That's full on in flower
I realize I did a shit job explaining the photos on my last post, so I edited it for clarity.

It's hard to tell from the two pictures, but there's two plants in two separate pots. One is the suspected auto and one is the suspected photo. Both supposedly white widow seeds from the same "regular" pack.
 

Umbra40

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You went into bud from only having 14 hours of lighting I am guessing.

Need 18 hours to keep it vegetating.
At this point it appears yer hosed up time schedule has pushed these into flower
It appears they are photos

Change yer lights to 12/12 before you cornfuse the poor girls anymore
I thought 14 hours light was sufficient to keep them in veg and some pistils in veg is normal. And it's not like they got darkness after 14.5 hours there was enough light to illuminate a room for another hour or two. But I definitely agree, something isn't right with those two. So they're either auto or need less darkness than average to go into flower. I'll up it to 16 hours of light and put those two in a tent on 12/12 because the consensus is they're no longer in veg.
 

The Gram Reaper

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I agree with Bob, stop putting off what you need to do. If you want veg, do 18 hours. If you want to bud, do 12. Don't rely on ambient lighting from the room and eliminate any light that isn't coming from your grow lights. If you are worried about the electric bill then just don't grow because growing on a messed up light schedule will make it not worth growing.
 

Umbra40

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I agree with Bob, stop putting off what you need to do. If you want veg, do 18 hours. If you want to bud, do 12. Don't rely on ambient lighting from the room and eliminate any light that isn't coming from your grow lights. If you are worried about the electric bill then just don't grow because growing on a messed up light schedule will make it not worth growing.
No doubt. I fucked up the lighting schedule. I didn't realize it was 14.5. I only mention the ambient lighting because if we're thinking their photo that might be enough light to keep them out of the darkness period.
 

BobThe420Builder

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Be sure u have 0% light during lights out, or you think it's bad now.....it will get much much worse


And I'd suggest re evaluation of your processes, guess I missed they are 90 days old, they should be 7' tall
 
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