These dudes that sell herm genes...most of them havent even grown their own crosses to observe all the problems first hand.... honestly if "Breeders" are selling u seeds they arent even growing for themselves and getting top dollar for it on the market.... do u really want those seeds... most of the time they are complete let down ... Im str8 on getting dank advice from some dude in Alaska ,,, thats me personally ...maybe its because im born and raised in SoCal... the worst is then the fan boys come out swinging on the nutts of these pollen chucking hacks... Herm lines are trash