Need some knowledge from a guru man

MustangStudFarm

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Your knowledge is more than welcome I am novice my self when it comes to organic I have a low perlite peat mix home made compost a year old to use once seedlings established breaks up nicely when u grab a hand full and some seaweed extracts is it 65-70% compost to 35% peat and perlite or other way round low amount of perlite in the peat
The people that actually know what to do are not that open to sharing their secrets because it's YEARS of hard work that went into that knowledge. There are a lot of dicks in this forum and I don't want good info leaking to them. I'll share with you but not the whole thread, send me a PM.
 

Northwood

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The people that actually know what to do are not that open to sharing their secrets because it's YEARS of hard work that went into that knowledge.
Naw, that's not true if you're speaking for all of us. Maybe you don't want to share, but I think most experienced people here want to be helpful and add their insights to the collective knowledge of the hobby for all to read. In fact, as a newbie I'd be very wary of anyone saying "I know all the secrets, but shhhh... I can only tell you in private". Oh my. My first thought is that that person would be trying to sell me something! lol
 

PadawanWarrior

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Was unaware there was a "fine" option tbh.

I'd imagine the fine would be a better option, but I am not qualified to answer that truth be told.

Minerals are typically for micro-nutrients, as well as helping to facilitate CEC. I would hypothesize that finely ground mineral would provide better CEC due to it covering more surface area inside of the soil itself, but I very would could be wrong. Similar to how finely ground Azomite is. Anyone chime in on this one?
Thanks. I'm gonna order some soon.
 

green_machine_two9er

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Was unaware there was a "fine" option tbh.

I'd imagine the fine would be a better option, but I am not qualified to answer that truth be told.

Minerals are typically for micro-nutrients, as well as helping to facilitate CEC. I would hypothesize that finely ground mineral would provide better CEC due to it covering more surface area inside of the soil itself, but I very would could be wrong. Similar to how finely ground Azomite is. Anyone chime in on this one?
The brix blend seemed to be mixed with fine ground and chunks. I like it for notill setup. From what I understand the minerals are not really going anywhere. I imagine the little chunks being like supercharged little Ion charging stations. Working on larger mass then the dust. But brix blend has plenty of small dust as well
 

PadawanWarrior

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Was unaware there was a "fine" option tbh.

I'd imagine the fine would be a better option, but I am not qualified to answer that truth be told.

Minerals are typically for micro-nutrients, as well as helping to facilitate CEC. I would hypothesize that finely ground mineral would provide better CEC due to it covering more surface area inside of the soil itself, but I very would could be wrong. Similar to how finely ground Azomite is. Anyone chime in on this one?
Thanks again man. I've got karanja meal, neem meal, and the fine basalt on it's way now to add to my collection. I pretty much have all the dry amendments BAS sells now, lol.

Do you use Azomite too?
 

PadawanWarrior

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The brix blend seemed to be mixed with fine ground and chunks. I like it for notill setup. From what I understand the minerals are not really going anywhere. I imagine the little chunks being like supercharged little Ion charging stations. Working on larger mass then the dust. But brix blend has plenty of small dust as well
I almost ordered that one, but I went with the fine stuff this time. I'm taking Kratos advice, so if it goes wrong I can blame him, lol.

I'm gonna use it as a topdress, along with kelp and neem and some other stuff. I add pumice, lava rock, and biochar to my topdress mixes sometimes when I add vermicompost to the mix so I don't need it to add any aeration, just the minerals. I thought the fine stuff made sense. Next time, maybe I'll order the brix blend and compare. I'm looking forward to experimenting.
 

curious2garden

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The people that actually know what to do are not that open to sharing their secrets because it's YEARS of hard work that went into that knowledge. There are a lot of dicks in this forum and I don't want good info leaking to them. I'll share with you but not the whole thread, send me a PM.
That is not true. Everything I've learned about growing came from here. So many people have raised me up. The problem here is separating who to listen to.

Thank you to everyone who carried me
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MustangStudFarm

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Naw, that's not true if you're speaking for all of us. Maybe you don't want to share, but I think most experienced people here want to be helpful and add their insights to the collective knowledge of the hobby for all to read. In fact, as a newbie I'd be very wary of anyone saying "I know all the secrets, but shhhh... I can only tell you in private". Oh my. My first thought is that that person would be trying to sell me something! lol
You are one of the guys that I have muted, so yeah. I'm a great salesman.
 

MustangStudFarm

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That is not true. Everything I've learned about growing came from here. So many people have raised me up. The problem here is separating who to listen to.

Thank you to everyone who carried me
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I've had a completely different experience than you then. I usually get dicks like Northwood, their ego is too big for me to deal with. I'm a disabled combat veteran that lives in the woods, so I'm a little rough around the edges... There came a point to where I got so far in this forum, like I hit a wall with "bro science". I went on a mission to find out why my plants would ALWAYS yellow too fast. I started getting my soil tested and I got nothing but grief from this forum while I trying to figure it out. Really, I kept getting this attitude like I was the dumb one because I was getting my soil tested "You just need to listen to your plants""You're overthinking it" and "just toss those test results out the window". It's like people on here want to act like they don't need a soil test even though every professional recommends it. I'm just tired of being scoffed at. The thing about the PM was that I don't like to argue with folks while I give advice to someone. There are a lot of different soil testing facilities and different methods for testing. I'm not even trying to sell recommendations, just telling people that they need to do it.
 

MustangStudFarm

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Was unaware there was a "fine" option tbh.

I'd imagine the fine would be a better option, but I am not qualified to answer that truth be told.

Minerals are typically for micro-nutrients, as well as helping to facilitate CEC. I would hypothesize that finely ground mineral would provide better CEC due to it covering more surface area inside of the soil itself, but I very would could be wrong. Similar to how finely ground Azomite is. Anyone chime in on this one?
Minerals, trace elements, and micronutrients are all different words for the same thing. It's micro and trace because that is how much the plant needs of it. The only thing that basalt delivers is magnesium mostly and maybe a little iron, but I still use basalt. It's supposed to be magnetic and will help raise magnetism in your pot(if you believe in that). What basalt doesn't deliver is manganese(not magnesium) and zinc. Rock dust and kelp doesn't deliver all of the micronutrients that you need(like bro science suggests). I use greensand, azomite, and basalt in my mix and I usually compost it before I use it.
 

MustangStudFarm

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Your knowledge is more than welcome I am novice my self when it comes to organic I have a low perlite peat mix home made compost a year old to use once seedlings established breaks up nicely when u grab a hand full and some seaweed extracts is it 65-70% compost to 35% peat and perlite or other way round low amount of perlite in the peat
Make sure to age your peat moss and don't use it straight out of the bag. I'll run it through the worm bin first or something. You said that you might have trouble locating greensand. The hippy method for getting micronutrients is to use companion plants to compost with like comfrey, nettle, and borage. There is a plant called lambsquarter where I live and it's supposed to be high in Mn, see if you can find something like that to add to your manure compost. After you finish your compost, turn it into worm bedding with peat moss and rock dust or whatever. My caution about too much kelp is that it has a lot of sodium and it will make your plants look thirsty even if they are fully watered. It will also cause germination issues if you are planting seeds, so I don't use any kelp if I plan on planting seeds. You say seaweed extract. Does that happen to be a cold press kelp? Cold pressed kelp(seaweed) is better than the dry amendments because it has the enzymes still intact. You shouldn't depend on seaweed alone and you should look into stinging nettle to compost too.
 

MustangStudFarm

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Was unaware there was a "fine" option tbh.

I'd imagine the fine would be a better option, but I am not qualified to answer that truth be told.

Minerals are typically for micro-nutrients, as well as helping to facilitate CEC. I would hypothesize that finely ground mineral would provide better CEC due to it covering more surface area inside of the soil itself, but I very would could be wrong. Similar to how finely ground Azomite is. Anyone chime in on this one?
This is what I'm talking about, this BAS mix is total B.S. They are just taking advantage of people here. They say that basalt brings all of the micronutrients. B.S. Sorry but I'm calling this product out @Diesel0889

I caught Jeremy admitting that his soil mix is low in micronutrients, so this video/product should prove that their "mineral mix" is just a marketing scam to make people spend more money on more products. To be clear, his soil tests look nearly identical to mine which is always low in manganese and zinc. The video is under the pictures, it's a good video and he describes the EXACT problem that I have had for so many years. https://buildasoil.com/collections/minerals/products/buildasoil-big-6?variant=8779523719285
 
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