AP: Fraud claims aimed in part at keeping Trump base loyal.

[SaltyCracker]

NEWSOM WAS LOSING THIS YEAR (EVEN THOUGH HE WASNT RUNNING) UNTIL HE GOT A HUGE DUMP OF VOTES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT!

this guy is mentally fucking retarded or a parody

I never said this year. So keep harping on it..with my typos. Should bring you ahead of the convo

 

[UncleBuck]

cognative

it's bignbushy, aka smokeydan, aka the meth junkie subway employee whose parents would cut him off if they knew he was sucking dicks in secret

 

[hanimmal]

Also I don't know wtf this is:


But it really doesn't give me confidence searching that propaganda website.

 

[UncleBuck]

I never said this year.

then show us a screenshot of newsom ever being behind in 2018 when he ran then you secret homosexual subway employee.

 

[SaltyCracker]

You would rather not know that you are reading shit on propaganda websites? Just because you can find something doesn't make it true.

Im sure I can find damn near anything online, should that mean I post it and expect others to just swallow the bullshit?

It was there..5 stories on google lmao. Stop trolling and waiting our time.

 

[UncleBuck]

Ill go down

youll go down on some dude but wont tell your parents lest they cut you off from your trust fund

 

[hanimmal]

Ill go down as an american supporting a potus that wants to give the country back to its citizens. Promises that were made..have been kept.
Im not sure why that you would be against that unless you are a marxist, ccp or just an idiot.
Do you want socialism in our country?
Im positive what you do for a living is benefit only by capatolism

Or, and far more likely, because reality, you are brainwashed into believing all the bullshit you post.

Or even far more likely you are one of the endless line of militarized propaganda trolls attack our nation.

It was there..5 stories on google lmao. Stop trolling and waiting our time.

Do you even know what you are talking about anymore? You said Fauci lied. And then asked me to go chase down whatever shit it is you have been fed (assuming you are not a paid troll for Dear Leader cucks to see your lies here).

 

[SaltyCracker]

it's bignbushy, aka smokeydan, aka the meth junkie subway employee whose parents would cut him off if they knew he was sucking dicks in secret

Nope..wrong again. Why cant you have debates with folks without throwing personal crap you think you know about them. I already explained this earlier actually. This is how you know a lefty has lost the debate when the personal attacks start. Its insecurities of your own faults you must be projecting

 

[injinji]

Hes gotten everything wrong lol. . . . . . . .

100% true. When 45 said covid was a hoax and a made up story after knowing the truth, AF allowed him to say that. And when 45 made fun of folks for wearing mask, AF didn't stop him. When 45 ask about injecting disinfectant, AF let him. When 45 spread covid all though the WH and on the campaign trail, AF let him. So you are right as rain. AF did not stop the biggest disease vector in America, so he does bear some blame.

 

[SaltyCracker]

Or, and far more likely, because reality, you are brainwashed into believing all the bullshit you post.

Or even far more likely you are one of the endless line of militarized propaganda trolls attack our nation.


Do you even know what you are talking about anymore? You said Fauci lied. And then asked me to go chase down whatever shit it is you have been fed (assuming you are not a paid troll for Dear Leader cucks to see your lies here).

Fauci isnt a liar? Fauci hasnt been wrong ever?
You should really be reeming this guy. He made a fool of himself and you maskholes

 

[schuylaar]

I mean..you been calling him a dicrator for years whilst the democrats are showing signs of evil dictatorship all over

opinion. you need to state facts and cite..c'mon already.

 

[schuylaar]

Well Im happy to see Burks is leaving. She got busted going against her own bs. Just like Cuomo, fauci,newsome,pelosi etc etc etc etc

actually, she wasn't offered a position like fauci was. should of called out the bleach injection instead of rolling eyes and still going along with king clorox and his UV bulbs.

 

[hanimmal]

Fauci isnt a liar? Fauci hasnt been wrong ever?

Are these the same thing? No. They are not.

Has he ever lied? How the fuck would I know, maybe he told someone they looked nice when they looked like shit, but that doesn't mean he ever lied to the American people about a virus and what the science was saying would be the best thing to do at the time.

Was he ever wrong, while I can't confirm this, I would say yes, of course, everyone who has ever had to deal with unknowns can never be right all the time. That is the type of bullshit mindset that leads you cucks into having to have a cult leader instead of a president.

You should really be reeming this guy. He made a fool of himself and you maskholes

Nope, you just are pushing Trump's lies that are being propagated by the Russian military to make Trump's cult become domestic terrorists, or at least provide cover to the ones that will.

 

[Offmymeds]

https://apnews.com/article/fraud-claims-aimed-trump-base-loyal-e1c3c5147d11a033fb43ebe66a29f7e8View attachment 4738096
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump campaign’s strategy to file a barrage of lawsuits challenging President-elect Joe Biden’s win is more about providing President Donald Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, according to senior officials, campaign aides and allies who spoke to The Associated Press.

Trump has promised legal action in the coming days as he refused to concede his loss to Biden, making an aggressive pitch for donors to help finance any court fight. Trump and his campaign have leveled accusations of large-scale voter fraud in Pennsylvania and other states that broke for Biden, so far without proof.

But proof isn’t really the point, said the people. The AP spoke with 10 Trump senior officials, campaign aides and allies who were not authorized to discuss the subject publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Trump aides and allies also acknowledged privately the legal fights would — at best — forestall the inevitable, and some had deep reservations about the president’s attempts to undermine faith in the vote. But they said Trump and a core group of allies were aiming to keep his loyal base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

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There has been no presidential election in recent memory in which such widespread fraud was alleged. The closest was the 1960 election in which Democrat John F. Kennedy beat Republican Richard Nixon, and there were scattered allegations that fraud helped Kennedy win.

Moments after the AP called the race for Biden, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani stood in front of campaign banner taped over the garage door of a landscaping company in Philadelphia, wedged near a cremation center and an adult book store called “Fantasy Island,” with a handful of poll watchers and declared they’d been kept too far away to check for any inaccuracies. Something fishy was going on, he said.

“We have no way of knowing, because we’ve been deprived of the right to inspect ballots,” he said.

Partisan poll watchers are designated by a political party or campaign to report any concerns they may have. They are not poll workers who actually tally ballots. Monitoring polling places and election offices is allowed in most states, but rules vary and there are certain limits to avoid any harassment or intimidation. They are not allowed to interfere with the conduct of the election and are typically required to register in advance with the local election office.

This year, because of the coronavirus that has killed more than 230,000 people across the country, there was litigation in a few states, including Pennsylvania, over where poll watchers could stand to ensure social distancing.

Lawyers could potentially argue the vote tally should be cast aside over fraud observed by poll watchers, but in order to win that argument they’d need strong evidence, not just allegations the monitors weren’t allowed to see clearly enough. Judges are loathe to disenfranchise any voters and there would need to be substantial proof that fraud had so damaged the count it must be set aside. And it would have to happen across multiple states.

Democratic poll watchers, who were also given the same access, have not raised concerns. Giuliani called evidence of fraud circumstantial at the news conference. He said he’d be filing suit in federal court, but the issue has already been before judges.

A federal judge in Philadelphia Thursday night ordered the two sides to work out an agreement on the number of poll watchers and how close they could be to the counting. The judge also voiced concerns about the safety of poll workers during the pandemic if poll watchers were allowed to peer over their shoulders.

On Fox News Channel’s “Sunday Morning Futures” Sunday, Giuliani said two additional lawsuits were in the process of being drafted, in addition to existing litigation in Pennsylvania.

Full Coverage: Election 2020

By the end of this week, Giuliani predicted the campaign would have filed “four or five” lawsuits, with a total of 10 possible. Republican lawyers planned a Monday news conference to announce additional litigation.

Voter fraud is extremely rare, and when it does happen, people are generally caught and prosecuted and it does not change the outcome of the election. Typically, it involves someone wanting to honor the wishes of a loved one who recently died and either knowingly or not commits a crime by filling out that ballot.

Trump campaign officials have also alleged that more than 21,000 had been cast in the name of the dead in Pennsylvania. The claims stem from a conservative legal group’s lawsuit against the Secretary of State, accusing her of wrongly including some 21,000 supposedly dead residents on voter rolls.

The federal judge who has the case, John Jones, has said he was doubtful of the claims. He said the Public Interest Legal Foundation that brought the claims was asking the court to accept that there were dead people on voter rolls, and he asked for proof and questioned why they had waited until the “eleventh hour” to file suit.

“We cannot and will not take plaintiff’s word for it —in an election where every vote matters, we will not disenfranchise potentially eligible voters based solely upon the allegations of a private foundation,” he wrote in an Oct. 20 ruling.

But even if those 21,000 votes were to be cast aside, Biden would still lead the state by more than 20,000 votes, according to AP data.

Trump’s own administration has pushed back at the claims of widespread voter fraud and illegal voting though it didn’t mention Trump was the one making the allegations. The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, the federal agency that oversees U.S. election security, also noted local election offices have detection measures that “make it highly difficult to commit fraud through counterfeit ballots.”

Top election officials in the battleground states of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Nevada - both Republican and Democrat - have all said they see no widespread voting irregularities, no major instances of fraud or illegal activity.

Meanwhile, on a call with supporters Saturday, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien encouraged them to be ready to continue the fight for Trump, including standing by for rallies and demonstrations. Other aides outlined what they argued were irregularities in the count.

And Republicans were sticking to the idea that all “legal” votes must be counted — the language freighted with a clear implication that Democrats want illegal votes counted, a claim for which there is no evidence.

It’s a precarious balance for Trump’s allies as they try to be supportive of the president -- and avoid risking further fallout -- but face the reality of the vote count.

According to one Republican granted anonymity to discuss the private conversation, Republicans on Capitol Hill were giving Trump the space to consider all legal options, and allowing the process to play out.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has not yet made any public statements -- neither congratulating Biden nor joining Trump’s complaints about the results.

“I’m not sure his position would have changed from yesterday -- count all the votes, adjudicate all the claims,” said Scott Jennings, a Republican strategist in Kentucky allied with McConnell. “My sense is there’s won’t be any tolerance for beyond what the law allows. There will be tolerance for what the law allows.”

It was a view being echoed by several other Republicans neither supporting or rejecting the outcome.

“Nothing that I’ve seen regarding the election raises a legal issue that could succeed. There is just is nothing there,” said Barry Richard, who represented George W. Bush in the 2000 recount in Florida that ended up before the U.S. Supreme Court. “When these kind of lawsuits are filed it just breeds contempt for the whole legal system,” he said.

It's so odd. I grew up in KY & TN. Their opinion of NY'ers was they were generally nasty, obnoxious, arrogant, greedy, pretentious, & condescending. The opinion of Trump was no different back then & actually much worse. He was considered an arrogant, obnoxious, & the sort of woman hater that would go on Howard Stern & talk about & denigrate the physical attributes of female celebrities.

That was a short time ago. Now I see many folks there that are rabid Trump fans. Most of my family never changed their minds about Trump but my church-loving sister-in-law posts msgs on FB about praying for President Trump. What the hell changed?

 

[SaltyCracker]

100% true. When 45 said covid was a hoax and a made up story after knowing the truth, AF allowed him to say that. And when 45 made fun of folks for wearing mask, AF didn't stop him. When 45 ask about injecting disinfectant, AF let him. When 45 spread covid all though the WH and on the campaign trail, AF let him. So you are right as rain. AF did not stop the biggest disease vector in America, so he does bear some blame.

I watch Bidens gaffes..and say to myself..i know what that potato meant. Most people do..dont even have to twist it like you all do with potus to try to prove some weird ass point.
He said the democrats fearmongering and hype about the virus was a hoax. You try to twist everything out of order. Its always reaching and pretty hard up. You got nothing on orange man. A few silly moments or words.. biden has a 2 hr mash up on yt of gaffes and bs like " if you dont vote for me you aint black". And new words he comes up with. Its not even funny anymore..its just sad. The right doesnt harp on it. Its just really sad to mention all of it and just go with calling him a potato

 

[SaltyCracker]

It's so odd. I grew up in KY & TN. Their opinion of NY'ers was they were generally nasty, obnoxious, arrogant, greedy, pretentious, & condescending. The opinion of Trump was no different back then & actually much worse. He was considered an arrogant, obnoxious, & the sort of woman hater that would go on Howard Stern & talk about & denigrate the physical attributes of female celebrities.

That was a short time ago. Now I see many folks there that are rabid Trump fans. Most of my family never changed their minds about Trump but my church-loving sister-in-law posts msgs on FB about praying for President Trump. What the hell changed?

CCP taking over the democrat party and rhinos. No one wants communism and only 1 man stands in the way of that

 

[SaltyCracker]

actually, she wasn't offered a position like fauci was. should of called out the bleach injection instead of rolling eyes and still going along with king clorox and his UV bulbs.

I rewatched the HRC and trump debate cpl wks ago. You should see how many times HRC says " fact check" . Thats when FC started and Soros owns 9 out if 10 FC dites. Weird..onve the lies come oit aboit the deep state criminals they started FC. As far as the clorox goes..he said many times he was just kidding. If you are dumb enough to consider drinking or injecting bleach. Please do it

 

[UncleBuck]

I watch Bidens gaffes..and say to myself..i know what that potato meant. Most people do..dont even have to twist it like you all do with potus to try to prove some weird ass point.
He said the democrats fearmongering and hype about the virus was a hoax. You try to twist everything out of order. Its always reaching and pretty hard up. You got nothing on orange man. A few silly moments or words.. biden has a 2 hr mash up on yt of gaffes and bs like " if you dont vote for me you aint black". And new words he comes up with. Its not even funny anymore..its just sad. The right doesnt harp on it. Its just really sad to mention all of it and just go with calling him a potato

we all saw trump with our own eyes call covid a hoax, you limp wristed cuck

why did you lie about gavin newsom? why are you lying to your parents about your homosexuality?

 

[UncleBuck]

I rewatched the HRC and trump debate cpl wks ago. You should see how many times HRC says " fact check" . Thats when FC started and Soros owns 9 out if 10 FC dites. Weird..onve the lies come oit aboit the deep state criminals they started FC. As far as the clorox goes..he said many times he was just kidding. If you are dumb enough to consider drinking or injecting bleach. Please do it

we all saw trump talk about injecting bleach with our own eyes, he was dead serious you stupid cuck

fact checks did not start in 2016

what the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[SaltyCracker]

we all saw trump with our own eyes call covid a hoax, you limp wristed cuck

why did you lie about gavin newsom? why are you lying to your parents about your homosexuality?

Woah woah..you are a homophobe?
That goes against everything you lefties stand for. Bigot