Having a hard time with soil

Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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rundlescunder said:
I had the same problem, I overwatered a plant stagnant for 6 weeks, like size of a seedling at 6 weeks. I could post pics but nah. It survived and started growing and I've even started a second batch of 4. Germ your shit in rockwool then transplant it to soil. That's the only way I can understand my first plant survived like it was. I have a theory but really no way to back it up that habing rockwool at the base prevents damp soil problems to a degree.
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Stop over loving your plants also that looks like coco you’ve got there
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Look ... simple answer, dump the walmart crap.
Home depot , local nurseries will have some decent soils to use right from the bag ....

FFOF ( ph 6.3 ) can run “ alone “ on water for weeks upfront....

EB STONE recipe 420 potting soil - great alternative to FFOF ( less hot ) .

Black Magic , Dr. Earth , Sunshine #4 , Pro mix , etc.

Your medium right from the start is very important.
 
rundlescunder

rundlescunder

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Lordhooha said:
Stop over loving your plants also that looks like coco you’ve got there
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It's an organic soil with coco I'm not sure if its 100 percent but I use purified water and just got a ro/di water system and will use that so I don't like to think of ph and all that
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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rundlescunder said:
It's an organic soil with coco I'm not sure if its 100 percent but I use purified water and just got a ro/di water system and will use that so I don't like to think of ph and all that
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That looks like a 70/30 blend of coco. Ro water needs to be ph’d in the medium you’re in.
 
Marq1340

Marq1340

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basketballer said:
Sorry took so long to reply, some stuff came up.

This light has grown really good dope, but sometimes the plants don't grow. I don't know why. Like mentioned, I think its the soil, fertilizer and maybe my feeding and watering schedule. This latest batch I've not watered much at all until I got this green friendly fungicide. Directions said to fully wet the root base, which was a mistake as last night I had the most mushrooms ever. This d747 product by southern ag was supposed to prevent it but looks like it must have gone bad as they took off even more than before. pH is spot on, I put the probe deep and its right at 6.4-6.6 on all my plants now (had to do a little pH adj, but nothing was above 7 or below 5. I've got like 15-20% perlite so I don't think the roots are rotting. Its gotta be junk soil.

Anyways, can I transplant these into hydroponics? I've got 2" net pots that just came and those clay ball medium is on its way. Jacks321 just arrived, and I already have air stones and a pump. I was going to make my own reservoir. I don't think this could go worse than soil, which has been a total disaster. From what I'm reading about hydro, its much more scientific, which I like. Soil just seems to be guesswork besides the pH meter.View attachment 4783045
This is after 2 months, barely any growth in the last 1.5 months. They shot up, then after 2 weeks stopped growing pretty much

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On warmer days if the temperature gets above 80F, I use the smaller light until things cool off. But mostly I use the larger light (130w says the KillAWatt meter)

Not shown is an exhaust fan that sucks out the top. You can kind of see the humidity probe dangling down near the light. The computer fan keeps things circulated and I put water in for next feeding as its quite cold out of the spigot

Thanks everyone for the help!
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coherent

coherent

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Some soils just suck. I've had mixed success with box store soils including Home Depot "organic" soils. Even worse results with any of the miracle grow soils or plant foods. To those that have had success with them congratulations. You must have the right water, right touch and a green thumb. I guess I don't. I find coco with perlite to be a bit more work up front (mixing nutrients and cal-mag and frequent watering/feeding) but more forgiving in many ways and easier to regulate and fix issues if they arise. If you prefer a more hands off approach to growing then a good soil (one that is recommended and proven to work well for cannabis) is a must. You water much less frequently with soil and things stay balanced a bit easier. You also don't have the continuous daily watering and nute and supplement feedings to stress over. But, if you don't mind being a bit more involved on a daily basis coco may be more to your liking. It's nearly impossible to over water and as long as you watch your plants they will tell you if you need to make any adjustments to your nutrient levels. I found I prefer the more hands on approach that the hydoponic/coco method offers. I recently had some seedings that were started in jiffy peat pots and then planted in soil. They were about dead due to dense soil that was retaining too much water and drowning the roots. Growth was stunted and about nil, leaves were drooping and turning brown. I had nothing to loose so I carefully unpotted the plants, removed the excess soil and rinsed the roots gently under flowing water. I replanted them in a buffered coco/perlite mix and started cal-mag and 1/4 strength GH nutes (FloraMicro & FlorsGro). All the seedlings showed immediate new growth. All survived and are doing great. A lot of new growers think growing in coco and adding nutrients is some high tech method that suits only more experienced growers and that soil is a more basic, easier and simpler method. When actually the opposite is true in some regards. coco is very easy and a great method for beginners. No matter which method you choose, you really need a PH meter or at the very least test strips and then regulate the water/nute PH levels. This is true even if growing in soil. Depending on the soil you use, soil can include a lot of variables that can make the process pretty difficult to regulate and impossible if you aren't watching PH levels. Good luck!
 
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puffdatchronic

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Soil i been growing 10 yrs

Veg , against all the advice you get on forums, keep to a minimum.
I stumbled upon this advice on sagarmathas website. A legendery breeder.
He says to veg plants to 7 nodes. That is a really small plant and aprox 2 weeks veg time.
The result is a plant that ends up 2 to 3 foot and minimal wasted height.

Feeding wise. Start off in 1 litre pots, as seedling. No feed required. At 7 nodes transplant into 4 gal pots into nute rich soil and flip light.
Next water light n and calmag feed.
Week 2 into the flowering nutes
Week 3 or 4 more cal mag
Plain water every 2 or 3 waterings.
Lift your pot to determine if its nearly dry. Only water at that point
Week 8/9 just water

Note you need to find out if you live in a hard or soft water area . Hard water may not develope cal or mag defs
 
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puffdatchronic

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Current grow. C99. Biobizz all mix .7 nodes veg. 20 days . 4 inch tall.
Day 30 ish 12/12 .
Last feed 5 ml plagron terra bloom 1 ml cal mag.
Lstd
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rundlescunder

rundlescunder

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Lordhooha said:
I’d like to see the “soil” you’re using because if your are in coco you’re going to have issues down the line if your ph is off
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burpee organix premium mix. been running it and the only issue I have is my plant gets droopy right before I feed it. I been feeding it everyday since I found how to deal with coco cause I didnt even realize I had coco, someone on here pointed it out to me she looks ok to me tho. been using distilled and purified water so I think the ro/di water shouldbe good
 

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