Making tincture easy and efficiently?

[chico1st]

so I read something about making weed tincture in everclear as being 80% effective at extraction. That feels really wasteful and I don't want to have to go through some other process with the left overs.

Can I just extract with Isopropyl first to get ~100% extraction then dissovle the residue in everclear to make a tincture?

Making my process:

1. Decarb
2. Iso quick wash
3. Evaporate
4. Pour in everclear
5. Celebrate

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[kovidkough]

yes, but be sure you evaporate all the iso

get the 99% or it will be a waste imho, they sell as sanitizer base

 

[Hobbes]

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You can make excellent tincture using one pass in the magical butter machine, no iso.

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[chico1st]

yes, but be sure you evaporate all the iso. get the 99% or it will be a waste imho, they sell as sanitizer base

OK right on!
Another question about making it efficiently. I have 4 oz I want to convert into tincture this way.
All the guides I see, use a few grams at a time in the ISO.

1. Is there a reason for that?
2. Like can I just load up all 4 oz (or 2 sets of 2 oz to if that gets a little big), swish it around and extract it all?
3. How much iso/everclear do you need per oz?
4. Is there a limit to how much it can absorb?

You can make excellent tincture using one pass in the magical butter machine, no iso.

I've been considering buying the magic butter machine, now you've given me 1 more reason

 

[kovidkough]

I use small Mason jars usually 2 cups of ethanol at a time 14gs of bud hand grind it for less green , I do 2 runs but separate first and seconds into separate jars.

 

[kovidkough]

smaller batches are more efficient , you want to extract as much thc but no chlorophyll, the longer it sits and the less surface area the greater amount of chlorophyll ends up in final product

 

[MICHI-CAN]

I'm going to skip my complex recipe.

A 5 gallon paint strainer from Sherwin you know. "Cover the earth " in poison place. For $2. Boil it in salt water for 10 minutes. Just food grade mesh without the release agents removed. Now edible. Not suggested. Add material to strainer and make a package that fits in your airtight container. I use 1/2 gallon mason jars. Add bundle and fill with 151 proof, 100 works but not so well. Loosely place lid on. Put in pan of water half the depth of jar. Heat on electric hot plate. Vaporizing alcohol here. No open flame. Bring water a boil for 10 minutes. Turn heat off. Jar will self seal. When room temp. Tighten lid and place in refrigerator for a month. Noticeable in a week. Better with age.

 

[chico1st]

I use small Mason jars usually 2 cups of ethanol at a time 14gs of bud hand grind it for less green , I do 2 runs but separate first and seconds into separate jars.

You do 2 runs with IPA? I thought the whole premise of using it was that it extracts everything on the first run. :O
I could see using 1L / half oz would start turning into a huge volume of IPA :O

I'm going to skip my complex recipe. A 5 gallon paint strainer from Sherwin you know. "Cover the earth " in poison place...Tighten lid and place in refrigerator for a month. Noticeable in a week. Better with age.

Whoa epic. This is a whole new level beyond where I am but I can very much sense the ability to scale this up aggresively.

 

[kovidkough]

You do 2 runs with IPA? I thought the whole premise of using it was that it extracts everything on the first run. :O
I could see using 1L / half oz would start turning into a huge volume of IPA :O


Whoa epic. This is a whole new level beyond where I am but I can very much sense the ability to scale this up aggresively.

no I don't use iso anymore just ethanol 190 proof
1cup per 14ge

 

[kovidkough]

it doesn't take long to reduce on heat pad

 

[MICHI-CAN]

You do 2 runs with IPA? I thought the whole premise of using it was that it extracts everything on the first run. :O
I could see using 1L / half oz would start turning into a huge volume of IPA :O


Whoa epic. This is a whole new level beyond where I am but I can very much sense the ability to scale this up aggresively.

Not exactly your goal. But consumable tincture, oral pain relief and just good ole I'm happily relaxed while stoned.

 

[chico1st]

no I don't use iso anymore just ethanol 190 proof
1cup per 14ge

Ah I see, does the second wash with your 190 proof also come out with lots of active THC? How does its concentration compare to the 1st wash?
Did you ever try a 3rd wash?

This would be easier

 

[kovidkough]

Ah I see, does the second wash with your 190 proof also come out with lots of active THC? How does its concentration compare to the 1st wash?
Did you ever try a 3rd wash?

This would be easier

yes the second wash is worth it
third is trash i separate the first and second
average return on 14gs is 3grams
I'm not an expert
I do it in my kitchen

 

[chico1st]

yes the second wash is worth it
third is trash i separate the first and second
average return on 14gs is 3grams
I'm not an expert
I do it in my kitchen

How come neither of you use Iso for your washes? It seems cheaper (in Canada ISO is like 1/4 the price of liquor) and the washes would be easier?

If you were to use ISO instead of everclear would you just need 1 wash?

 

[kovidkough]

How come neither of you use Iso for your washes? It seems cheaper (in Canada ISO is like 1/4 the price of liquor) and the washes would be easier?

If you were to use ISO instead of everclear would you just need 1 wash?

I won't smoke iso

 

[ByNudge]

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You can make excellent tincture using one pass in the magical butter machine, no iso.

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When I use the magical butter machine, it grinds it super fine, how do I get the taste to be less offensive?

 

[EhCndGrower]

When Covid first hit my entire family came down with it. I was a symptomatic but everyone else in the house got some bad cases of it. So to give some pain release I learn that some were just decarbing weed for 40-45min at 215-225f in the oven, grinding the flower in a coffee grinder and shoving that into 00 pill forms. They work (on 2 right now. salad mix of Black Domina, Blueberry, Do-Si-Dos and American Pie) but hit and miss on how fast they work. I’ve been as fast as 45 minutes and sometime I’m between 4-6hrs before they kick in. I think 2 is a good point for myself but 3 can get downright sleepy and a little panicky sometimes. Last a good 4-7hrs, depending on if you have something fatty and/or spicy on them, seems to activate and elevate the intense high

 

[DarkWeb]

@cannabineer

 

[sf_frankie]

We can't get alcohol above 120 proof here in CA so I make my "tinctures" (technically its an infusion because its oil) with MCT oil using mason jars and a pressure cooker. I've never had it tested but apparently it works quite well. MCT oil is unlike other oils because it heads straight to your liver where you body can break it down and allow the THC to cross the blood brain barrier and get you faded. 1ml under the tongue and you're faded in mins. Plus it doesn't burn like alcohol.

 

[cannabineer]

@cannabineer

so I read something about making weed tincture in everclear as being 80% effective at extraction. That feels really wasteful and I don't want to have to go through some other process with the left overs.

Can I just extract with Isopropyl first to get ~100% extraction then dissovle the residue in everclear to make a tincture?

Making my process:

1. Decarb
2. Iso quick wash
3. Evaporate
4. Pour in everclear
5. Celebrate

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I have some suggestions. First on order of steps:
1) Cold quick wash iso. You pack a filter/column with your weed ground coarse. You’ll need 100 to 200 ml 91% iso per ounce or so.
2) Evaporate the iso, using warmth at the end.
3) It is much easier to decarb at this stage, and it drives off the last of the iso. 110 degrees C for 15 minutes (that is extract temp, not stove temp) and it’s decarbed.
4) Dilute to “use strength” with ethanol.

I’ve made notes on quantity of solvent and decarb technique. Any more questions, ping me.