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Fogdog
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Remember when Shrub's administration said California's 2001 energy crisis was due to "market forces" and blamed the people rather than the real cause, Enron manipulating the energy market?
"The biggest problem in California is consumers are not going to see the price signals. If they don't see the price signals, they are not changing behavior so the problem is going to get worse," Lay said.
So, OK, this is a real natural disaster. It was also predictable. Capitalists fail to account for the value of human lives in their spreadsheets.
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Fogdog
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so now Texas will fvck people for their leaderships shortcomings by cheaping out and passing the cost on to..the consumer in addition to having to put up with the inconvenience.
'if you want de-regulation Texas, this is what you have to put up with'
how apropos +rep
Fogdog
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Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say
Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the country’s power grid, left the state alone to deal with the crisis, experts said.
Millions of Texans have gone days without power or heat in subfreezing temperatures brought on by snow and ice storms. Limited regulations on companies that generate power and a history of isolating Texas from federal oversight help explain the crisis, energy and policy experts told The Texas Tribune.
While Texas Republicans were quick to pounce on renewable energy and to blame frozen wind turbines, the natural gas, nuclear and coal plants that provide most of the state’s energy also struggled to operate during the storm. Officials with the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, the energy grid operator for most of the state, said that the state’s power system was simply no match for the deep freeze.
“Nuclear units, gas units, wind turbines, even solar, in different ways — the very cold weather and snow has impacted every type of generator,” said Dan Woodfin, a senior director at ERCOT.
Energy and policy experts said Texas’ decision not to require equipment upgrades to better withstand extreme winter temperatures, and choice to operate mostly isolated from other grids in the U.S. left power system unprepared for the winter crisis.
Policy observers blamed the power system failure on the legislators and state agencies who they say did not properly heed the warnings of previous storms or account for more extreme weather events warned of by climate scientists. Instead, Texas prioritized the free market.
“Clearly we need to change our regulatory focus to protect the people, not profits,” said Tom “Smitty” Smith, a now-retired former director of Public Citizen, an Austin-based consumer advocacy group who advocated for changes after in 2011 when Texas faced a similar energy crisis.
source
This is the capper to the article:
The North American Electric Reliability Corporation, which has some authority to regulate power generators in the U.S., is currently developing mandatory standards for “winterizing” energy infrastructure, a spokesperson said.
Texas politicians and regulators were warned after the 2011 storm that more “winterizing” of power infrastructure was necessary, a report by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and the North American Electric Reliability Corporation shows. The large number of units that tripped offline or couldn’t start during that storm “demonstrates that the generators did not adequately anticipate the full impact of the extended cold weather and high winds,” regulators wrote at the time. More thorough preparation for cold weather could have prevented the outages, the report said.
NERC is being BLAMED for Texas's official's own failures. It's a non-profit, run by out of state poo-bahs with real jobs elsewhere and the elected officials who were given adequate warnings after a similar event in 2011 are doing everything they can to shift blame away from themselves.
Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the country’s power grid, left the state alone to deal with the crisis, experts said.
Millions of Texans have gone days without power or heat in subfreezing temperatures brought on by snow and ice storms. Limited regulations on companies that generate power and a history of isolating Texas from federal oversight help explain the crisis, energy and policy experts told The Texas Tribune.
While Texas Republicans were quick to pounce on renewable energy and to blame frozen wind turbines, the natural gas, nuclear and coal plants that provide most of the state’s energy also struggled to operate during the storm. Officials with the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, the energy grid operator for most of the state, said that the state’s power system was simply no match for the deep freeze.
“Nuclear units, gas units, wind turbines, even solar, in different ways — the very cold weather and snow has impacted every type of generator,” said Dan Woodfin, a senior director at ERCOT.
Energy and policy experts said Texas’ decision not to require equipment upgrades to better withstand extreme winter temperatures, and choice to operate mostly isolated from other grids in the U.S. left power system unprepared for the winter crisis.
Policy observers blamed the power system failure on the legislators and state agencies who they say did not properly heed the warnings of previous storms or account for more extreme weather events warned of by climate scientists. Instead, Texas prioritized the free market.
“Clearly we need to change our regulatory focus to protect the people, not profits,” said Tom “Smitty” Smith, a now-retired former director of Public Citizen, an Austin-based consumer advocacy group who advocated for changes after in 2011 when Texas faced a similar energy crisis.
source
This is the capper to the article:
The North American Electric Reliability Corporation, which has some authority to regulate power generators in the U.S., is currently developing mandatory standards for “winterizing” energy infrastructure, a spokesperson said.
Texas politicians and regulators were warned after the 2011 storm that more “winterizing” of power infrastructure was necessary, a report by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and the North American Electric Reliability Corporation shows. The large number of units that tripped offline or couldn’t start during that storm “demonstrates that the generators did not adequately anticipate the full impact of the extended cold weather and high winds,” regulators wrote at the time. More thorough preparation for cold weather could have prevented the outages, the report said.
NERC is being BLAMED for Texas's official's own failures. It's a non-profit, run by out of state poo-bahs with real jobs elsewhere and the elected officials who were given adequate warnings after a similar event in 2011 are doing everything they can to shift blame away from themselves.
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rkymtnman
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Gov Abbott: "its a 100 year storm. it would cost too much to prepare for soemthing this infrequent"
Mother Nature: "this happened in 1989, 2011 and 2021"
Fogdog
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Blaming mother nature? lulz When he talks about cost, it doesn't account for the value of human life.
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rkymtnman
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was it him or the Lt Gov that wanted the elderly to sacrifice their lives to work during tthe pandemic? reap what you sow TX.
Fogdog
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How many live in Texas? Cut that number by 10% and that's who said it.
"you made that bed, now lie in it"
Fogdog
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Hey, Texas.
Karma is a bitch
Texas attorney general asks Supreme Court to block Biden victory in 4 states
Karma is a bitch
Texas attorney general asks Supreme Court to block Biden victory in 4 states
Texas attorney general asks Supreme Court to block Biden victory in 4 states
President Trump, his campaign and his allies have engaged in aggressive but fruitless legal challenges designed to overturn Joe Biden's victory.
www.usatoday.com
captainmorgan
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This guy predicted the grid failure 10 years ago.
www.cnn.com
Man who predicted Texas' energy failure explains what went wrong | CNN Business
Ed Hirs, an Energy Fellow at the University of Houston, explains how he predicted that the Texas energy grid would fail ten years ago.
CunningCanuk
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Not everyone in Texas votes for Republicans. The Democrats who wanted better representation and voted for it are suffering too.
I don’t get the “fuck Texas” attitude myself.
Fogdog
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I agree with you, yet still, I can't unsee the headlines showing Texas's support for Trump's dictatorship. Right now, I see their authoritarian ways as a threat and so am hostile.
rkymtnman
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they had the audacity to tell (try to) other states how to "find" election fraud. nope, sorry, but texas can go f themselves.
there's a famous saying: those who criticize wind turbines shouldn't live in natural gas houses.
printer
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Progressives target 'Cancun Cruz' in ad to run on 147 Texas radio stations
The left-leaning No Excuses political action committee is launching an ad to run across 147 different radio stations in Texas taking aim at Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) going to Cancun, Mexico while his state deals with the fallout of a major winter storm leaving millions without power.
The 30-second ad dubs the senator “Cancun Cruz” for flying to Mexico on Wednesday as well as Cruz's defense of the trip on Thursday the day after photos of him on a flight headed to the resort city surfaced, according to The Washington Post.
thehill.com
I was hoping for an Onion type of ad on Youtube, no luck.
The left-leaning No Excuses political action committee is launching an ad to run across 147 different radio stations in Texas taking aim at Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) going to Cancun, Mexico while his state deals with the fallout of a major winter storm leaving millions without power.
The 30-second ad dubs the senator “Cancun Cruz” for flying to Mexico on Wednesday as well as Cruz's defense of the trip on Thursday the day after photos of him on a flight headed to the resort city surfaced, according to The Washington Post.
Progressives target ‘Cancun Cruz’ in ad to run on 147 Texas radio stations
The left-leaning No Excuses political action committee is launching an ad to run across 147 different radio stations in Texas taking aim at Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) going to Cancun, Mexico while his…
thehill.com
I was hoping for an Onion type of ad on Youtube, no luck.
CunningCanuk
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I understand the sentiment but I think it’s important to remember the people who implemented bad policies are not suffering one bit. The Governor is warm. Ted Cruz would be on a beach in Mexico if he didn’t get caught at the airport.
The citizens are the ones suffering and 40% of them voted for better representation than they got.
DIY-HP-LED
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Most of the time the people are taught a bitter lesson, but this bunch are trumpers and this incident will have little or no impact, just like Donald's lack of covid response made little difference. Perhaps with the changing demographics in Texas it might speed up the conversion to purple, but remember they elected Louie Gohmert too, so there are a lot of shitheads there.
injinji
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You missed a golden opportunity for the correct use of the word decimate.