The Daily Nugg,

[DustyDuke]

Black Triangle lower nugs

 

[Laughing Grass]

It's a rooting solution with IBA-K and NAA. Plant growth regulators. They've received a lot of bad rep because of misuse on the illegal market.

There's a lot of different safe PGR's if used correctly. KLN is strictly for rooting clones. I would switch to chlorine. Here's a dilution calculator Chlorine dilution calculator

I trimmed them back yesterday afternoon and switched over to sterile. There still looking a little sad this morning lol. I also switched over to my fluorescent light thinking maybe the LED was too much.



my grow cabinet looks a lot better than my clones.

 

[curious2garden]

I trimmed them back yesterday afternoon and switched over to sterile. There still looking a little sad this morning lol. I also switched over to my fluorescent light thinking maybe the LED was too much.

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my grow cabinet looks a lot better than my clones.

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Cut a couple bottom branches from your flowering plants and add them to that cloner in case you lose those. Keep it a low light environment. I use a 2 lamp fluorescent a good foot above them. Clones root when they start running out of N (it's mobile) and feel the end approaching. When I trim my girls in week 2-3 of flower I'll leave the extras in a solo cup. They usually root faster than the ones taken from the plant and put directly in the cloner.

 

[cannabineer]

It's a rooting solution with IBA-K and NAA. Plant growth regulators. They've received a lot of bad rep because of misuse on the illegal market.

There's a lot of different safe PGR's if used correctly. KLN is strictly for rooting clones. I would switch to chlorine. Here's a dilution calculator Chlorine dilution calculator

I don’t think rooting hormones (NAA and IBA) are counted as PGRs. In any case they won’t persist once the clone is set to grow.

As far as chlorine goes, pool shock (calcium hypochlorite) is better than liquid bleach. Calcium is a nutrient. Sodium (the counterion in liquid bleach) is at best useless, and it’s possible that bleach, which contains extra sodium as the chloride, will cause “lockout” in sensitive plants with open wounds and no roots yet. Go with pool shock.

 

[Laughing Grass]

Cut a couple bottom branches from your flowering plants and add them to that cloner in case you lose those. Keep it a low light environment. I use a 2 lamp fluorescent a good foot above them. Clones root when they start running out of N (it's mobile) and feel the end approaching. When I trim my girls in week 2-3 of flower I'll leave the extras in a solo cup. They usually root faster than the ones taken from the plant and put directly in the cloner.

cool I'll take a bunch more cuts. I didn't know you could take clones at three weeks into flower, I thought two weeks was the cutoff. I had my led dialed back to 14 watts and I think that was still too much. The light I switched to is a two light 24" florescent. I'll see if I can raise it a bit higher, it's almost exactly the same width as the area for my clones.

 

[curious2garden]

cool I'll take a bunch more cuts. I didn't know you could take clones at three weeks into flower, I thought two weeks was the cutoff. I had my led dialed back to 14 watts and I think that was still too much. The light I switched to is a two light 24" florescent. I'll see if I can raise it a bit higher, it's almost exactly the same width as the area for my clones.

Sounds like the same light I use for mine 2' HO. I keep them a good foot or more away.

 

[Laughing Grass]

Sounds like the same light I use for mine 2' HO. I keep them a good foot or more away.

I can only get the transformer up as high as the blue lines so the lights themselves are about 8" off tops

I'm going to have to get the hammer out. This will be fun, I think those cross pieces are holding it all together.

 

[raratt]

I can only get the transformer up as high as the blue lines so the lights themselves are about 8" off tops

I'm going to have to get the hammer out. This will be fun, I think those cross pieces are holding it all together.

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Take the stuff out from under it and lower the shelf?

 

[Laughing Grass]

Take the stuff out from under it and lower the shelf?

That might be my only option, it's all floppy without the cross pieces holding it together.

 

[curious2garden]

I can only get the transformer up as high as the blue lines so the lights themselves are about 8" off tops

I'm going to have to get the hammer out. This will be fun, I think those cross pieces are holding it all together.

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I'd try a fluorescent that far away. I think you'll be good.

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

@raratt & @curious2garden have great suggestions.
If the shelf is necessary for stability & you decide to remove it simply add a 1"x2" piece for furring both fore & aft sans the shelf.

 

[Laughing Grass]

I'd try a fluorescent that far away. I think you'll be good.

Cool I'll leave it as-is. The last pic I posted of the clones was under the fluorescent light. I was just worried that it was too close.

@raratt & @curious2garden have great suggestions.
If the shelf is necessary for stability & you decide to remove it simply add a 1"x2" piece for furring both fore & aft sans the shelf.

Once these clones either live or die I'd like to redo that corner so it's a better location for cloning, maybe aluminium shelving or something like that. That wood is so old and bowed, nothing sits flat on it.

 

[Laughing Grass]

I took three more clones yesterday... they're very flowery.

 

[curious2garden]

I took three more clones yesterday... they're very flowery.

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2-3 weeks in I see. I'd pinch off the flower.

PS On the other clones check their stems. You can see if they've gone to mush, if the stems go to mush toss them or trim the stems back to healthy if you have enough length.

 

[Laughing Grass]

2-3 weeks in I see. I'd pinch off the flower.

PS On the other clones check their stems. You can see if they've gone to mush, if the stems go to mush toss them or trim the stems back to healthy if you have enough length.

Three weeks to the day.

I pinched off the flowers. None of the other plants seem mushy and there's no odor. The leaves are crispy now.

 

[curious2garden]

Three weeks to the day.

I pinched off the flowers. None of the other plants seem mushy and there's no odor. The leaves are crispy now.

Well you have extras in the cloner now hopefully they will get the hint and root.

 

[Laughing Grass]

Well you have extras in the cloner now hopefully they will get the hint and root.

part of me is thinking I should probably hedge my bets and pick up a few more seeds. I always seem to struggle with things that seem so simple.

 

[tyler.durden]

Think they’re dead? Tomorrow will be two weeks since they’ve been cut and no sign of roots. I can’t win with clones lol.

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Looks like you have a little black spot or other fungus damage on those leaves. That can really mess with cloning results. I would dip/spray them with an anti-fungal before putting them in the cloner next time. You may want to hit 'em with it now. Cloning can be difficult to get right, but once you have it dialed in for your specific environment, you're golden. Keep at it, young lady.

 

[Laughing Grass]

Looks like you have a little black spot or other fungus damage on those leaves. That can really mess with cloning results. I would dip/spray them with an anti-fungal before putting them in the cloner next time. You may want to hit 'em with it now. Cloning can be difficult to get right, but once you have it dialed in for your specific environment, you're golden. Keep at it, young lady.

I sprayed them with regalia this morning. I completely forgot, @manfredo also suggested dipping clones. I think I want to just play around with clones that aren't in flower and see if I can figure this out. I also want a better area that isn't up so high that I need a ladder.

 

[raratt]

I sprayed them with regalia this morning. I completely forgot, @manfredo also suggested dipping clones. I think I want to just play around with clones that aren't in flower and see if I can figure this out. I also want a better area that isn't up so high that I need a ladder.

Tough being vertically challenged eh?