LOOOOOW ppm out. . Is it ok?

[Holeleeshet]

STARDOG

do you agree that i should go to heavy defol and pruning? And should i do it all in one go? Any last tips?

I would be reay to go if some more people gimme the go

Defol little by little. If u pull all at once you’ll have little gaps in your buds from missing fan leaves like I do. Do it selectively from the bottom up and leave your fans until week 3 or four of flower.

 

[nz_420]

Like stated about the pH, its too low, fine to do it at 5.5 sometimes. I fluxulate mine between 5.6-6.5. Most times around 5.8-6.2, having the different pH levels gives the plant acsess to different nutrients

 

[Holeleeshet]

Use cold tap water with a sprinkle of Morton’s salt . Makes my ph 7 all the time. As long as u use the same water till harvest u started with you’ll be fine like nz said.

 

[Holeleeshet]

My ph averages 7.1-sometimes7.3 and my harvest turned out like this you can see the gap from foliating all at once . I learned to do little bits here and there every week or so.

 

[Star Dog]

STARDOG

do you agree that i should go to heavy defol and pruning? And should i do it all in one go? Any last tips?

I would be reay to go if some more people gimme the go

I do very little in the way of defoliating but that's just me it doesn't make right or wrong, I'd have no problem with taking advice from Getogrow (I have done)

I do very little during veg, I get the basic shape/branches I'm after by tying the tops down 4/6 node + growing tip then leave them to grow to 14/16".

Then leave until I'm flowering for the final shape and trimming.

Like this.

2 weeks later.

And 2 more weeks again.

I'm looking for minimum work but that's just me you go about yours how you enjoy it.

 

[canadreas69]

My ph averages 7.1-sometimes7.3 and my harvest turned out like this you can see the gap from foliating all at once . I learned to do little bits here and there every week or so.

Coco?

 

[canadreas69]

I do very little in the way of defoliating but that's just me it doesn't make right or wrong, I'd have no problem with taking advice from Getogrow (I have done)

I do very little during veg, I get the basic shape/branches I'm after by tying the tops down 4/6 node + growing tip then leave them to grow to 14/16".
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Then leave until I'm flowering for the final shape and trimming.

Like this.
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2 weeks later.
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And 2 more weeks again.
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I'm looking for minimum work but that's just me you go about yours how you enjoy it.

Nice stardog, thx m8

 

[Doug Dawson]

I still have to suggest some LST before stripping any more. Once tied down to open up the canopy you may not need to take any more at all. Just a thought.

 

[getogrow]

I still have to suggest some LST before stripping any more. Once tied down to open up the canopy you may not need to take any more at all. Just a thought.

I am with this advice too. If you look though he has to be doing some type of lst as his tops are laying over on most of them.

Im coming from the side thats highly against defoling but in your case i would use it to my advantage.... Once you have a healthy plant in a healthy environment then you cannot hurt her in veg. you can litterally take everything but the bottom leaf and it will grow back how ever you shape it. Thats a complete waste of time but you can do it.

75% of the time , i do as doug is mentioning and just bend branches over until the lowers reach the tops....no need in removing leaves. Thats just me and my strains...

Your strains are MUCH bushier then mine and thats why i recommend defoling. Almost extreme defol , that will leave you with just branches so you can see what your doing. Bend all those top branches over and keep doing that until your room is full (width wise) not taking any more leaves off.
Now that your canopy is full , side to side, you can flip them and remove EVERYTHING below the main canopy ....now your left with a picture worthy canopy of nothing but fine tops!

im not very good at explaining shit or spelling but i give it hell!

 

[getogrow]

One thing i forgot to mention that should not really matter at all in your situation but its solid info to hold on to: Taking the leaves off will slow growth but not by enough to "see" unless your in a shitty environment. Taking ALL the leaves off aka swazzing or whatever the fuck they call it....will slow your plant down enough to notice but it will grow right back out very fast on some strains more then others.
Its one of them things you have to look into pros and cons of your strains to see if its something you want to do.... im just trying to maximize what you are showing me.



soil

 

[getogrow]

You have enough plant to easily fill a 4x4 area right now....how big are you trying to go ? The few that are not really messed with can be bent over and take up a lot of room. I think you are ready for some lst and the flip.

 

[Holeleeshet]

I do very little in the way of defoliating but that's just me it doesn't make right or wrong, I'd have no problem with taking advice from Getogrow (I have done)

I do very little during veg, I get the basic shape/branches I'm after by tying the tops down 4/6 node + growing tip then leave them to grow to 14/16".
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Then leave until I'm flowering for the final shape and trimming.

Like this.
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2 weeks later.
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And 2 more weeks again.
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I'm looking for minimum work but that's just me you go about yours how you enjoy it.

I would let that center branch grow another node then top it. Then top both those micro tips into six and low stress them over the other stems since your sogging. That’s one thing I like about indica other than the sativa. Then fans grow bushy either way u plant em. I got two sativa Dragon breath this harvest And in having to do 12 weeks of flower. You got some Nice ladies I’d keep it the way u got em they look very healthy. My soil is ground coffe bean,perlite, and miracle gros cactus soil to prevent logging. I’m going to experiment with my next harvest by grinding all of my roots and stems and foliage for my soil amendment and I plan on mixing it with some perlite and cocoa. If I was smart I would’ve used dry pots like you did but instead I YouTube 5 gallon Lowe’s bucket with Those red Mars rocks 1/3 full for my runoff.

 

[canadreas69]

You have enough plant to easily fill a 4x4 area right now....how big are you trying to go ? The few that are not really messed with can be bent over and take up a lot of room. I think you are ready for some lst and the flip.

Thanks for ypur reply everybody, all great info.

So im thinking after allyas replies ma babies can take a hit!
So i decided im gonna go perrdy heavy tmorrow. Pruning and defol.

Hope they stretch some more, and widen, so i can install my trellis/scrog.

Ive got a 4x8, or 1.2x2.4cm space. Got 2.4m, or 4 height total, thinkin im gonna go like 1.8 at harvest. Im only at like 60-70cm above floor now. Got like 30-40cm of plant.......

Was hoping to flip within 2.5-3weeks....

But GETTOGROW
Can u explain this for me; The few that are not really messed with can be bent over and take up a lot of room. I think you are ready for some lst and the flip.

 

[Holeleeshet]

Instead of defoliation just jet I could cut all your lowers out and break the branches from bottom up all the way to the leaves. Watch this and I’ll see what I was trying to say. He breaks em all the way up

 

[getogrow]

Thanks for ypur reply everybody, all great info.

So im thinking after allyas replies ma babies can take a hit!
So i decided im gonna go perrdy heavy tmorrow. Pruning and defol.

Hope they stretch some more, and widen, so i can install my trellis/scrog.

Ive got a 4x8, or 1.2x2.4cm space. Got 2.4m, or 4 height total, thinkin im gonna go like 1.8 at harvest. Im only at like 60-70cm above floor now. Got like 30-40cm of plant.......

Was hoping to flip within 2.5-3weeks....

But GETTOGROW
Can u explain this for me; The few that are not really messed with can be bent over and take up a lot of room. I think you are ready for some lst and the flip.

You got plenty of room to keep growing then. What i meant was that you have a few plants that do not look like you have touched them.... i would bend over all the tops like you did to the others. Once you bend them down sideways , they will add a lot more canopy. Focus on sideways growth right now so you can fill your grow space.

 

[Holeleeshet]

Thanks for ypur reply everybody, all great info.

So im thinking after allyas replies ma babies can take a hit!
So i decided im gonna go perrdy heavy tmorrow. Pruning and defol.

Hope they stretch some more, and widen, so i can install my trellis/scrog.

Ive got a 4x8, or 1.2x2.4cm space. Got 2.4m, or 4 height total, thinkin im gonna go like 1.8 at harvest. Im only at like 60-70cm above floor now. Got like 30-40cm of plant.......

Was hoping to flip within 2.5-3weeks....

But GETTOGROW
Can u explain this for me; The few that are not really messed with can be bent over and take up a lot of room. I think you are ready for some lst and the flip.

Good luck

 

[Holeleeshet]

You got plenty of room to keep growing then. What i meant was that you have a few plants that do not look like you have touched them.... i would bend over all the tops like you did to the others. Once you bend them down sideways , they will add a lot more canopy. Focus on sideways growth right now so you can fill your grow space.

Your right satellites are what a lot of people miss out on and cut em not thinking. I showed a video to him bout the same thing.

 

[canadreas69]

Instead of defoliation just jet I could cut all your lowers out and break the branches from bottom up all the way to the leaves. Watch this and I’ll see what I was trying to say. He breaks em all the way up

Supercropping

Does this give light to the lower growth though? If u dont defo

 

[getogrow]

Instead of defoliation just jet I could cut all your lowers out and break the branches from bottom up all the way to the leaves. Watch this and I’ll see what I was trying to say. He breaks em all the way up

very very good video...

 

[getogrow]

Supercropping

Does this give light to the lower growth though? If u dont defo

There is no lower growth on his method. Everything is at the top. He leaves only the solar panels to catch light. he picks EVERYTHING off the plant except the leaves. That makes sure you have nothing but tops at the end.

He went too far in that video for my style but it works. I just dont wanna take quite that much off but the main bit of info that hit me is that its better to do all this in veg and leave everything alone in flower.