Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

[DragonPhoenix]

I keep going back and forth here!!!! 4 600watt or 2 1000watt

I cant make up my mind!!!!! either way they will be added one at a time. can somebody help me decide?

4 600w and it's not even close...I'll tell you why

1. 600w HPS is the MOST efficient HID light in terms of lumens per watt.
2. Multiple sources of light are SO much better for the plants. Your canopy should be more even and you won't have to worry more about certain plants getting a ton of light while others on the edge are left out. This would be an issue with 2 1000w.
3. If one goes down for some reason you have THREE others going instead of just ONE.

Do I need to go on?

DP

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[DIRTHAWKER]

Thanks dragon... thats the way i was going. Also heat issues can be controlled easier with 600s and better coverage.

 

[vertise]

where do you get your clones from. do you clip your veg plants

 

[jasynergy]

I have a few questions, sorry if I missed any of the answers.
1. Why do you use 2 Rubbermaid containers for veg not just one like clone? Is it because roots are longer to keep out of water supply?
2. I think I understand right in terms of your perpetual harvest and not keeping mothers. What I think in order for multi-strains is you need to have in each of the three flower sections some of each type (14 veg of different strains 3 weeks next get cut for clones and then moved into one of the 3 sets of grow tubes), however in all your pics it looks like each 3 weeks your introducing a differnt strain they dont look mixed. Am I wrong?
3. I see the plants are 7" apart down grow tube and tubes like 12" apart. If you had to have walls up against the plants & no room to walk how far out from tube do your plants tend to grow?

 

[StinkBud]

I have a few questions, sorry if I missed any of the answers.
1. Why do you use 2 Rubbermaid containers for veg not just one like clone? Is it because roots are longer to keep out of water supply?

Exactly!

2. I think I understand right in terms of your perpetual harvest and not keeping mothers. What I think in order for multi-strains is you need to have in each of the three flower sections some of each type (14 veg of different strains 3 weeks next get cut for clones and then moved into one of the 3 sets of grow tubes), however in all your pics it looks like each 3 weeks your introducing a differnt strain they dont look mixed. Am I wrong?

I'm running 10 different strains, they are all mixed together.

3. I see the plants are 7" apart down grow tube and tubes like 12" apart. If you had to have walls up against the plants & no room to walk how far out from tube do your plants tend to grow?

I have about a foot between the plants and the walls. I wish I had more!

 

[offgridgrower]

just wanted to stop by and tell you stink,that on my 2nd batch of clones none wilted at all!! i think i had the problems in part , because I dipped my clones in clonex gel before I put them in the cloner, maybe by the time the gel had washed off they were getting thirsty? but no gel this time, no wilting at all!! great system bro!!

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

Whats the average number of days until the new cuttings develope roots? mine have been in for 8 days and i still dont see any roots? Im not trying to ask every little question that comes up, not trying to be a worry wart either, just thought i should know.

also i was searching around and couldnt find what you try and keep your clone PH at?

last one.. do you change the flower reservoir nutes every 3 weeks? or just keep checking them and keep the ppm in check..i cant remember what it was?

 

[flabbyone]

I picked up one of the natural wave aquarium Timers someone on here suggested as a cost effective timmer.
It has 6 outlets, 3 of them are standard with no timer, 2 are on the same time, you can set it for any time from 20 seconds to 3 minutes, but they are set for 20 sec on and 20 off or what ever you set, 3 minutes on and three minutes off.
The third timmed plug is double that so if you have the first two plugs set for 20 second on and off, the third outlet would be 40 sec on and off.
I only paid $44.65 including shipping so it was a deal if it works. I guess it is better then 24 on 7 days a week.

What do you think Stinky, will it be ok or should I send it back?

Thanks Dude, you ROCK! kiss-ass+ rep for you, now that I think I figured out how to do it. I gave you a 5 anyway!

 

[torrey420]

Dirt, He keeps everything at 5.8, only having one number for ph in all three systems is good!

 

[flabbyone]

I do have one question for you. Have you tried putting your clones, once rooted directly into 12/12 to force flowering immediately after rooting? I used to do that with soil grows...well, not exactly, I used to keep them under 12/12 lighting from the time I planted them until a week before harvest, then darkness for a few days. I never did do a flush with indoor soil grows but that was long before the INTERNET and all of the information that is available now. It is almost too much info available now.
Thanks,
Flabs

 

[flabbyone]

Whats the average number of days until the new cuttings develope roots? mine have been in for 8 days and i still dont see any roots? Im not trying to ask every little question that comes up, not trying to be a worry wart either, just thought i should know.

also i was searching around and couldnt find what you try and keep your clone PH at?


last one.. do you change the flower reservoir nutes every 3 weeks? or just keep checking them and keep the ppm in check..i cant remember what it was?

I believe he said that the clones didn't mater what the PH was because you can not get nutrient lock out when not using any nutrients. I believe that is what he said anyway.

 

[SOG]

been reading your thread past few days, all i can say is WoW
thank you for doing all this and keeping your journal up to date, for all to learn

in your journal (Post 126) you mentioned something about firing up your new design

can you please explain the differences with your new design
the only difference i was able to notice was the end cap design

please help!!!
not sure how long i can hold off before I'm home-depot bound

once again
Thanks for all your hard amazing work, more important for sharing with us
cheers...

 

[DragonPhoenix]

Whats the average number of days until the new cuttings develope roots? mine have been in for 8 days and i still dont see any roots? Im not trying to ask every little question that comes up, not trying to be a worry wart either, just thought i should know.

Hey Dirt -
from what I've seen so far the clones can take anywhere from 1-3 weeks to root. I'd say average is about 10d. I've got some clones that haven't rooted yet and I've got clones that have massive amounts of roots and tons of new growth and they were all taken at the same time.

also i was searching around and couldnt find what you try and keep your clone PH at?

I like to keep mine at about 5.5. My cloner had an issue just once and once I fixed that my pH has been rock solid at 5.5-5.6 for over 2w now.

last one.. do you change the flower reservoir nutes every 3 weeks? or just keep checking them and keep the ppm in check..i cant remember what it was?

It's both! Check a couple times and change the res out every 3w. I believe common practice is 2w but getting away with 3w should be ok. Of course if something is out of whack and all messed up I would change it immed which I've had to do with my veg unit.

We'll get there Dirt thanks to Stink's guidance and sharing of info. I'll post some pics of my vegging plants. I had to top 3 of them already because they are over 12" tall and I don't have preflowers yet because they were all started from seed. I do have a bunch of clones too but they are in the clone unit and I'm waiting until my plants in the veg unit show preflowers before i throw them into flowering (actually I don't have a choice - you HAVE to wait for preflowers if starting from seed. Only reason you can throw clones into bloom is because they SHOULD have been taken from a mature mother who has shown preflowers and every clone taken is the same age as the mother - a genetic copy)

DP

 

[tintala]

I have been followin your thread, I too am a registered medical patient, I also built your little cloner that you have here. I like it , its cool. i wanted to ask your opinion on the supplement SWEET. I read you like using it, do you get a noticable difference form using it? i also was told by the grow shop here that you should use hygrozyme when using sweet , does this ring a bell? I thought it was for taste, but i guess you should use hygrozyme with it?

 

[DragonPhoenix]

I have been followin your thread, I too am a registered medical patient, I also built your little cloner that you have here. I like it , its cool. i wanted to ask your opinion on the supplement SWEET. I read you like using it, do you get a noticable difference form using it? i also was told by the grow shop here that you should use hygrozyme when using sweet , does this ring a bell? I thought it was for taste, but i guess you should use hygrozyme with it?

I don't want to speak for Stink but as I recall he doesn't use hygrozyme on a regular basis. He used it once as I recall. I have it in my veg unit now because I was having an issue with what appeared to be a brown algae. Stink recommended I use it because of the problem I was having but if I didn't have the problem I would not be using it. The stuff is expensive!

 

[Vitus.Syndrome]

Do I have to have a different setup for cloning and the rest? I mean if I have a aero clone and a aero grow setup dont I just need to change the lighting when I want to switch stages?

 

[StinkBud]

Whats the average number of days until the new cuttings develope roots? mine have been in for 8 days and i still dont see any roots? Im not trying to ask every little question that comes up, not trying to be a worry wart either, just thought i should know.

also i was searching around and couldnt find what you try and keep your clone PH at?

last one.. do you change the flower reservoir nutes every 3 weeks? or just keep checking them and keep the ppm in check..i cant remember what it was?

My AK47 and Snowbud root in 4-7 days but my NYC Diesel has been in the cloner for over three weeks and still no roots. I don't sweat it though. Eventually everything pops roots.

I change all my reservoirs each harvest. It's just easier that way.

Feel free to change it every couple of weeks though. It won't hurt a thing.

 

[StinkBud]

I picked up one of the natural wave aquarium Timers someone on here suggested as a cost effective timmer.
It has 6 outlets, 3 of them are standard with no timer, 2 are on the same time, you can set it for any time from 20 seconds to 3 minutes, but they are set for 20 sec on and 20 off or what ever you set, 3 minutes on and three minutes off.
The third timmed plug is double that so if you have the first two plugs set for 20 second on and off, the third outlet would be 40 sec on and off.
I only paid $44.65 including shipping so it was a deal if it works. I guess it is better then 24 on 7 days a week.

What do you think Stinky, will it be ok or should I send it back?

Thanks Dude, you ROCK! kiss-ass+ rep for you, now that I think I figured out how to do it. I gave you a 5 anyway!

That won't work, bummer. I was really hoping you found a timer that would work. No big deal.

You need a timer that will go 1 minute on and 5 minutes off.

 

[StinkBud]

I do have one question for you. Have you tried putting your clones, once rooted directly into 12/12 to force flowering immediately after rooting? I used to do that with soil grows...well, not exactly, I used to keep them under 12/12 lighting from the time I planted them until a week before harvest, then darkness for a few days. I never did do a flush with indoor soil grows but that was long before the INTERNET and all of the information that is available now. It is almost too much info available now.
Thanks,
Flabs

That's what I did when I got my first Aero system. The plants didn't produce as much as they do now with 3 weeks veg time.

Also I need the plants in veg to take my cuttings from because I don't run any mother plants.

 

[StinkBud]

been reading your thread past few days, all i can say is WoW
thank you for doing all this and keeping your journal up to date, for all to learn

in your journal (Post 126) you mentioned something about firing up your new design

can you please explain the differences with your new design
the only difference i was able to notice was the end cap design

please help!!!
not sure how long i can hold off before I'm home-depot bound

once again
Thanks for all your hard amazing work, more important for sharing with us
cheers...

I started with an aero system I bought online. I have retired that system and now I'm just using my designs only.