LOOOOOW ppm out. . Is it ok?

[getogrow]

Yo! Ok...thanks mate! Gonna mix tmorrow gonna be a tiny bit cheaper. Yea hope i gain height real quick so i dont start second guessing these changes...

nothing to second guess. you will see a stretch. If you see anything outta the ordinary , then just raise the light intensity back up. no big deal. We know for a fact that they love your setup , that part is a fact.
You have intense "blue" light coming outta them nice leds so you can automatically expect less stretch then a guy running hps or Mh.

 

[getogrow]

They should all be praying for the light about now. Its been a couple days. Praying yet or not quite yet ?

 

[canadreas69]

They should all be praying for the light about now. Its been a couple days. Praying yet or not quite yet ?

Yo! Thanks for the reply mate yea been praying more than before ....niiice...gained some cm these days. i think its looking good. ..? been plucking sum from the top to pick what tops i want but its growing leaves like a movvah...

 

[canadreas69]

So the plan was lettin them grow til they get to the next trellis that im planning to put at like 15 20 cm over thisone, lettin them grow freely for a while now. ...? Any thoughts? They at 60 65 now from the floor

 

[getogrow]

After your canopy is full , then let them grow freely and probably flip them. i doubt you will ever need a second trellis with those strains.



All that outlined in red shuold have tops bent over into those voids....more bending and at this point taking a few leaves per plant is a good idea.
Then a few days after filling the voids , flip them and let um grow!

 

[getogrow]

Yea, at 65cm....its about time to flip them. You make the flip schedule , not them. (unless they are autos) You do whatever you want to them , then you flip them. you can train for years before flipping them if you want.

Your canopy is looking really full and they are about 2ft tall so its about that time.... they will probably end around 120-140 cm high if you can keep them flooded with light.
I dont see that particular strain doing more then double its current size. Im accounting for all the extra tops too. If you were to have 5or 6 tops per plant then they would stretch to over double current size.....probably triple. but the way you are doing them , i would say no more then double the size. They are very bushy even after all your cleaning work.

Im gonna guess at 120cm as the highest point in the canopy.

 

[canadreas69]

My res is in my 26-28 c room. Water gets up to about 26. Is this a problem?

 

[getogrow]

My res is in my 26-28 c room. Water gets up to about 26. Is this a problem?

It can be a problem if you are not on it.
That temp is perfect for breeding microbes and other pathogens/beneficials. So as long as you recycle all the water in the res every day or 3 , then you will be fine.
If it has sat for a week without using any then i would dump it out and use fresh or use peroxide to kill whats in there. You dont wanna let it get anywhere close to that.....just use it all everyday if possible. Do not pre mix any food unless you plan to use it right then.

What food are you using, again ?

 

[canadreas69]

It can be a problem if you are not on it.
That temp is perfect for breeding microbes and other pathogens/beneficials. So as long as you recycle all the water in the res every day or 3 , then you will be fine.
If it has sat for a week without using any then i would dump it out and use fresh or use peroxide to kill whats in there. You dont wanna let it get anywhere close to that.....just use it all everyday if possible. Do not pre mix any food unless you plan to use it right then.

What food are you using, again ?

Using plagron coco series. Using only coco a+b as base and root and zym as additives. I dropped 1 add, sugar royal. Coco a+b can be in rez for 2 weeks, the 2 other is recommended 48 hours. I mix 100l for 3 days, wash res err 3 days. 2 weeks into flower i switch out them additives for green sensation, some 4 in 1 nute. It can be in rez 2 weeks wit a+b. Looking forward to that.
I wanted to use the minimal of whats recommended. Last run, with biobizz, i used a fuckload of money on nutes, the whole gaddam 7 or 8 different ingredients. Wanted to go organic but when the gnats attacked, for 3 months or so.....it killed my vibe....

 

[canadreas69]

It can be a problem if you are not on it.
That temp is perfect for breeding microbes and other pathogens/beneficials. So as long as you recycle all the water in the res every day or 3 , then you will be fine.
If it has sat for a week without using any then i would dump it out and use fresh or use peroxide to kill whats in there. You dont wanna let it get anywhere close to that.....just use it all everyday if possible. Do not pre mix any food unless you plan to use it right then.

What food are you using, again ?

I was thinking more of what water feeding temp is best for nutrient uptake. Read 16 to 20 with 16 as the absolute low....amd 23 as the absolute high....but....doesnt errbody have their res in the room?

 

[canadreas69]

After your canopy is full , then let them grow freely and probably flip them. i doubt you will ever need a second trellis with those strains.

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All that outlined in red shuold have tops bent over into those voids....more bending and at this point taking a few leaves per plant is a good idea.
Then a few days after filling the voids , flip them and let um grow!

Thax mate....trying to fillem holes

 

[canadreas69]

Yea, at 65cm....its about time to flip them. You make the flip schedule , not them. (unless they are autos) You do whatever you want to them , then you flip them. you can train for years before flipping them if you want.

Your canopy is looking really full and they are about 2ft tall so its about that time.... they will probably end around 120-140 cm high if you can keep them flooded with light.
I dont see that particular strain doing more then double its current size. Im accounting for all the extra tops too. If you were to have 5or 6 tops per plant then they would stretch to over double current size.....probably triple. but the way you are doing them , i would say no more then double the size. They are very bushy even after all your cleaning work.

Im gonna guess at 120cm as the highest point in the canopy.

Aha, didnt know that the more tops the less stretch... interesting

Mk gonne fill the canopy no matter the height or day and flip en....

 

[getogrow]

Aha, didnt know that the more tops the less stretch... interesting

That is not always the case but its a good general rule.

 

[getogrow]

I was thinking more of what water feeding temp is best for nutrient uptake. Read 16 to 20 with 16 as the absolute low....amd 23 as the absolute high....but....doesnt errbody have their res in the room?

LOTS of folks use chillers for their res.
I wont listen to a debate about water temp unless its fully studied and controlled test run. IMO whatever temp the rootzone is , the feed will be that temp within seconds....before you even get done pouring. I dont see a lil warm or a lil cold changing anything. Roozone temp would be way more helpful then water temp reguarding nutrient uptake.

Now if you are letting any water sit in a res (even clean water) then you want it cool so the germs dont grow as fast. (germs outta the air)

 

[canadreas69]

These little nugs or hairs or what ever. This means shes ready to flip right?

 

[canadreas69]

Yea, at 65cm....its about time to flip them. You make the flip schedule , not them. (unless they are autos) You do whatever you want to them , then you flip them. you can train for years before flipping them if you want.

Your canopy is looking really full and they are about 2ft tall so its about that time.... they will probably end around 120-140 cm high if you can keep them flooded with light.
I dont see that particular strain doing more then double its current size. Im accounting for all the extra tops too. If you were to have 5or 6 tops per plant then they would stretch to over double current size.....probably triple. but the way you are doing them , i would say no more then double the size. They are very bushy even after all your cleaning work.

Im gonna guess at 120cm as the highest point in the canopy.

Hi again man

Thing are going good. They are staying low though. And filling up with leaves again. Having a bit of trouble filling the gaps as the lower growth dont seem to catch up.

So im thinking about 2 things, or two choices/options.
1. Let them grow as they are. Still a little pucking and bending til the canopy is as full as i can get it.
2. Taking of the hydro halos. Take 1 and 1 plant in front of me, on a pedestal, so i can pluck and prune with total control and oversight. And maybe they will be easier to bend under the trellis after.

What do you guys think?

 

[canadreas69]

Hi guys...


So I did this to all my girls. Was thinkin if i didnt i was gonna wonder what it would be if i did....
I really hope they can handle this treatment...
I cut some big low branches, lollypopped and picked some top leaves....

 

[canadreas69]

Before

 

[canadreas69]

After

 

[hotrodharley]

I hate everything to do with ph. I hate the word itself BUT with all my understanding , I would bump it up to 6.0 ish.
Listen to your plants more then us though.....they are telling you to keep them as is. All this info is for future reference.

Your girls are obviously getting everything they need but that dont mean another pheno will be the same.... Take our info and incorporate it into the op over time. no need to change anything now.

Used to be cal mag was the answer for everything. Bad color? Give cal mag. Stunted. Cal mag.

Now it’s pH. Lol. And people comparing meters? Litmus paper is more than adequate for our purposes. Guarandamnteed.