Pandemic 2020

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Their club is way too Manson/Jonestown, there is no education/information method. They will simply benefit from 3/4 of the nation being vaccinated and continue thinking they're superhero patriots.
I was going to write along that line as well as they are the ones thinking Liberals are riding on their coattails.
 

blu3bird

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Fewer people take a ‘wait and see’ approach to COVID-19 vaccine — here’s what changed their minds - MarketWatch

Fewer people take a ‘wait and see’ approach to COVID-19 vaccine — here’s what changed their minds
Though access to COVID-19 vaccines remains limited, polling suggests a slice of Americans want to “wait and see” how the shots work for other people before they get vaccinated themselves.

But experts say that getting the vaccine as soon as it’s available to you will be vital for protecting yourself and others, stopping virus variants in their tracks, and resuming some level of normalcy.

The share of people in this “wait and see” category has declined over time, according to polling by the health-policy think tank Kaiser Family Foundation, dropping from 39% in December to 31% in January. In February, the most recent survey, it stood at 22%. This happened alongside a gradual increase in the share of respondents (most recently 55%) reporting they’d either gotten at least one dose or would get the vaccine as soon as possible.

Black adults (34%), young adults aged 18 to 29 (33%), Hispanic adults (26%), adults without a college degree (25%), and non-health essential workers (25%) had the highest shares of respondents in the wait-and-see group.

The most common concerns in the wait-and-see cohort were the potential for serious side effects; the possibility of getting COVID-19 from the vaccine, which health authorities say cannot happen; the prospect of missing work due to side effects; and the potential need to pay out of pocket for the vaccine, though the vaccines are free. A quarter of wait-and-seers said a one-dose vaccine would make them more likely to get their shot.

Susan Lopez, a hospitalist affiliated with Rush University Medical Center in Chicago, says community members have raised questions about waiting to get vaccinated against COVID-19 during every one of the 12 vaccine-outreach sessions she has done.

“I get a lot of questions about long-term effects, like months and years later on, especially with regards to mRNA vaccines since they keep hearing it’s new technology,” Lopez told MarketWatch. Many people also feel overwhelmed by the technological logistics of registering for a vaccine appointment, she added.

Lopez said she tells community members who say they want to wait that she’s there to provide them with the information they need to make the decision best for them. But she reassures them that no safety steps were skipped in the vaccine-development process, that all of the vaccines have been studied, and that researchers will continue to gather safety information.

Lopez stressed the importance of asking people why they want to wait rather than assuming. Healthcare professionals should acknowledge that those feelings are valid, she said, while also answering questions and providing information.

About one-fifth of respondents to KFF’s latest survey said they definitely wouldn’t get vaccinated (15%) or would do so only if required (7%). But KFF chief executive Drew Altman likened the wait-and-see cohort to “persuadable swing voters.” He reasoned they should be a key focus in efforts to shore up vaccine confidence, “especially in Black and Latino communities where the need for building vaccine confidence and addressing information needs and barriers to access is the most urgent.”

He also predicted many may get their shots after seeing people they know get vaccinated without incident.

“The ones whose minds can be more readily changed are in the wait-and-see group — and hopefully all of their minds can be changed,” said David Abramson, a clinical associate professor of social and behavioral sciences at the NYU School of Global Public Health who is doing research on vaccine hesitancy and was not involved in KFF’s research.

“If that was the case, we’d get closer to an 80% [coverage] rate, and that would be terrific,” Abramson added. “We’d be at the herd-immunity rates that we’d want to be at.”

The Food and Drug Administration has granted emergency-use authorization to the two-dose Pfizer PFE, 1.22% -BioNTech BNTX, 4.01% and Moderna MRNA, 3.37% vaccines, as well as the one-shot Johnson & Johnson JNJ, 0.47% vaccine.

As of Thursday afternoon, 64 million people in the U.S. (19.3% of the total population) had received at least one vaccine dose, and 33.8 million (10.2% of the population) were fully vaccinated, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

‘I generally scare them about how bad COVID can be’
What’s the rush to get vaccinated? For starters, the longer you wait, the longer you aren’t protected from COVID-19, said Alison Buttenheim, a behavioral epidemiologist at the University of Pennsylvania School of Nursing.

People tend to have concerns about vaccine safety and efficacy, she added, but many don’t appropriately weigh the risks of the disease they’re trying to prevent. “It’s really easy to only focus on the benefits and potential harms and risks of the vaccine, and just ignore the disease,” she said. “We all misestimate our risk.”

William Parker, an assistant professor of medicine at the University of Chicago with firsthand experience caring for patients with severe COVID-19, says he emphasizes to wait-and-see people that they don’t want to wind up seeing him in the hospital.

“I generally scare them about how bad COVID can be,” Parker said. “What’s so exciting about the vaccines is they are tremendously effective at preventing these really bad outcomes — hospitalizations and deaths.”

The virus had killed more than 530,000 people in the U.S. as of Thursday, according to Johns Hopkins University.

A race to ‘starve the virus of hosts’ — and ward off variants
The urgency stems from a need to “starve the virus of hosts,” Abramson said. Public-health professionals want to cut down the number of people in a community who are potential carriers and transmitters of the virus, he said, so to the extent that more and more people get vaccinated, “that will soon begin to suppress the virus population itself.”
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I've decided that I'll just be in the wait category, not wait and see, just wait. I want to be sure that everyone who needs the vaccine can get theirs first. Elderly, medical staff, veterans and physically higher risk folks I have no issue waiting behind.

I'm not too worried about Covid, I'm fairly healthy and take necessary precautions. I'm not saying I'm invincible, but I'm willing to bet you that I've been exposed to shit worse than Covid. You have to remember I'm at truckstops and rest areas often, ground zero for some of the worst nastiest germs you can imagine, things that would probably make Covid run and hide. I believe my immune system is a finely trained killing machine. My immune system is my rifle
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I've decided that I'll just be in the wait category, not wait and see, just wait. I want to be sure that everyone who needs the vaccine can get theirs first. Elderly, medical staff, veterans and physically higher risk folks I have no issue waiting behind.

I'm not too worried about Covid, I'm fairly healthy and take necessary precautions. I'm not saying I'm invincible, but I'm willing to bet you that I've been exposed to shit worse than Covid. You have to remember I'm at truckstops and rest areas often, ground zero for some of the worst nastiest germs you can imagine, things that would probably make Covid run and hide. I believe my immune system is a finely trained killing machine. My immune system is my rifle
Here, some trucker porn for ya!

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DIY-HP-LED

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What's this, republican men don't want to bare arms! What a bunch of pussies, give them a fucking lolipop! :lol:
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Republican Men Don’t Want the Vaccine & Trump Looks Fantastic!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Small number of Facebook users responsible for most Covid vaccine skepticism – report | Facebook | The Guardian

Small number of Facebook users responsible for most Covid vaccine skepticism – report
Washington Post reported on the study which confirmed what researchers have long argued about: the echo chamber effect

A small subset of Facebook users is reportedly responsible for the majority of content expressing or encouraging skepticism about Covid-19 vaccines, according to early results from an internal Facebook study.
 
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injinji

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More covid news from the home front. The 35'ish year old son of my wife's best friend tested positive and was out of work for two weeks. He's back at work now. Hope he is not one of the long haulers.
 

injinji

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I always assumed the EU had good sense. I guess I was wrong. Although the number of blood clots are within the background numbers, they have slammed the door on a vaccine. They have a crazy right wing problem just like we do.

 

Sativied

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I always assumed the EU had good sense. I guess I was wrong. Although the number of blood clots are within the background numbers, they have slammed the door on a vaccine. They have a crazy right wing problem just like we do.

The position of the EMA (EU’s medicine regulation agency) is that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the possible risks. Individual nations are free to choose whatever they want to do with that though. And although the number of people with blood clots are within the background numbers, the combination with low platelet counts is not. Nothing to do with right wing nut jobs though.They generally make up 15-20% of the voters and are excluded from coalitions in most cases. I got to vote today (in NL), and pick one of 37 parties :shock: As usual by now, the nazis only get 16%, which like in Sweden makes them the second largest, yet gives them no power.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Chris Hayes: Tucker Carlson’s Not Stupid, He Just Thinks His Audience Is

"They disingenuously stoke skepticism and fear in the most cowardly way possible—by posing as brave truth tellers in the guise of just flinging nonsense at people and leading to more people getting sick," says Chris Hayes discussing Fox News' vaccine disinformation.
 

Offmymeds

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I've decided that I'll just be in the wait category, not wait and see, just wait. I want to be sure that everyone who needs the vaccine can get theirs first. Elderly, medical staff, veterans and physically higher risk folks I have no issue waiting behind.

I'm not too worried about Covid, I'm fairly healthy and take necessary precautions. I'm not saying I'm invincible, but I'm willing to bet you that I've been exposed to shit worse than Covid. You have to remember I'm at truckstops and rest areas often, ground zero for some of the worst nastiest germs you can imagine, things that would probably make Covid run and hide. I believe my immune system is a finely trained killing machine. My immune system is my rifle
I'm 67 yrs old. Age will bitch slap you. I have to put on suntan lotion to combat rosacea because I sit in front of 3 monitors most of the day. Be careful. Even your own immune system can attack you.

That being said, I'm still a sexy hunk in my mind with just a few more blemishes to hide.
 
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