3 days on jack's 5-12-26 and the plants are loving it! Bye bye General Hydroponics forever

xtsho

xtsho

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jonnynobody said:
So I'm growing all of the same strains as the last flower cycle with the exception of blue dream. The only difference is that I'm using jack's 5-12-26 with calcium nitrate and epsom salt instead of GH maxi bloom. The aroma of the flowers is remarkably better and more pungent. The ghost train that I hated last cycle smells more of deep lemon that was not present last cycle. It was a sour burning type of smell that really was not pleasant or lemon like in any way. Just over powering citrus that was terrible. This time lemons. The maui waui smells unlike any maui I've ever grown because I've never grown it in jack's. I've grown if for the last 2 years, but never with jack's. This time it smells like a completely different plant. More like fruit. It smells more like what I would expect a soil plant to smell like. Even the critical mass smells very different. That strain has the least remarkable change, but it's still remarkable. The real test will be the smoke report. I'll do the same 3 day flush like I did last time 2 years ago. Nothing fancy. I'm sold on jack's. Very sold. The smoke report will seal the deal. I have 1 blue dream coming down in about 10 days, so about 2 1/2 weeks out to a real smoke report with jack's 5-12-26.
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I can't remember if I've asked you this before but are you growing the Nivana Maui?
 
xtsho

xtsho

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jonnynobody said:
Jack's 5-12-26 contains 6.3% magnesium sulfate. It's loaded with it! And you are correct, 100% of the calcium in Jack's 3-2-1 system is derived from the calcium nitrate.
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Calcium nitrate as the nitrogen source eliminates the need for calmag.

jonnynobody said:
Jefferson state seed co
https://www.facebook.com/Jefferson-State-Seed-Co-486940548327988/

I don't know if it's a strain that's still available for sale. If it is it's a great one to have in the garden. I'd have no reservations recommending it.
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Interesting. I've grown the Nirvana Maui Waui. I don't know how authentic it is but it's some decent weed.
 
rkymtnman

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xtsho said:
Calcium nitrate as the nitrogen source eliminates the need for calmag.



Interesting. I've grown the Nirvana Maui Waui. I don't know how authentic it is but it's some decent weed.
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nirvana makes some decent strains. lot of people hate on them but their fems are stable.

aurora indica was a good one.

i'm doing my last bean of blackjack right now. i don't remember how that one turned out: been a while.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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rkymtnman said:
nirvana makes some decent strains. lot of people hate on them but their fems are stable.

aurora indica was a good one.

i'm doing my last bean of blackjack right now. i don't remember how that one turned out: been a while.
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That's the truth. There has been what seems like a disinformation effort to discredit European breeders by some in the United States. It's shameful. Most of the pollen chuckers on instagram and those other crappy sites started with European genetics to begin with. The good breeders just sell what they have and don't get involved in that nonsense.

As far as breeding goes. ACE based in Spain is probably one of the best. There are also some people doing some good stuff here in my home state of Oregon as well. But it's likely many started with genetics from Europe or at least some ties to European breeders. There are many more people from Europe sourcing cannabis from across the world. Those genetics are desirable. Too much US stuff is just recycled inbred hybrids given a new name. No real breeding going on. F1 hell. That's what it is.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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xtsho said:
As far as breeding goes. ACE based in Spain is probably one of the best
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can you get them from any US seed banks?

do you run regs / fems or both? due to plant count and mainly bad luck (i'd have 10 of 10 be males lol) i only run fems.

can you guys buy clones in OR?
 
lusidghost

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Alight, I just got my 5-12-26 and I want to go feed them. I'm confused as to how much though. There are a lot of charts and and types and whatnot. I tried to read this thread, but I just got home from a hike and I'm having a hard time focusing.

Does anyone have a feeding chart that I could wrap my fried mind around? A simple grams per gallon of the three parts during the different phases?
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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lusidghost said:
Alight, I just got my 5-12-26 and I want to go feed them. I'm confused as to how much though. There are a lot of charts and and types and whatnot. I tried to read this thread, but I just got home from a hike and I'm having a hard time focusing.

Does anyone have a feeding chart that I could wrap my fried mind around? A simple grams per gallon of the three parts during the different phases?
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isn't is 3g of 5-12-26 2g of cal/nit and 1g of epsom? jacks 3-2-1
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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lusidghost said:
Oooh. I assumed 321 meant parts, but not literal grams. You run it full strength all the way through?
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ive never used it. i use jack's RO.

i'd run it at what your plants can handle. mix it up full strength and then water it down to your target EC
 
xtsho

xtsho

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rkymtnman said:
can you get them from any US seed banks?

do you run regs / fems or both? due to plant count and mainly bad luck (i'd have 10 of 10 be males lol) i only run fems.

can you guys buy clones in OR?
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I think there's a few US seed banks that carry a few ACE offerings. I purchased mine from overseas.

I grow regulars.

There are clones to be had in Oregon but I've never purchased them.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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xtsho said:
I think there's a few US seed banks that carry a few ACE offerings. I purchased mine from overseas.

I grow regulars.

There are clones to be had in Oregon but I've never purchased them.
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thanks. i'll check out that ACE and see if they do any fems. the other Spanish one i've heard of but never tried is Cannabia. pretty sure they do fems and autos
 
PJ Diaz

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xtsho said:
I think there's a few US seed banks that carry a few ACE offerings. I purchased mine from overseas.

I grow regulars.

There are clones to be had in Oregon but I've never purchased them.
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rkymtnman said:
thanks. i'll check out that ACE and see if they do any fems. the other Spanish one i've heard of but never tried is Cannabia. pretty sure they do fems and autos
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PCG just updated their seed catalog, which looks like some fire!

purplecitygenetics.com

Seeds — Purple City Genetics

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rkymtnman

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if i did the math correctly, total ppm of Su in 321 is 169ppm. 67 from the 5/12/26 (3 g) and 103 from the epsom (1g)

so for the RO formula, i need to add about 1.7g per gallon epsom to be close.
 
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