Onceuponatime2309
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Why boiling water? What does this do? Who else does this? Where did you hear about this? Id like to know more about this
mag deficiency?
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lazypothead420
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They were almost at 5 weeks when I started the foliar. How come so little molasses? I've read all over that 1 tbsp per gal was good. So I'm either underfeeding or overfeeding and I can figure out which. Part of me feels like I should've never done any foliar and just topdressed when needed. But the other half is thinking maybe I wasn't proactive enough. But I also know now that I was definitely underwatering them, which mat not have been a problem earlier in the grow because the plants were small still.
osowhom
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basically irt just breaks it down faster i always put a cup of boiling water in my feed water to warm it up anyways
getogrow
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Takes 3-4 weeks to break down what ? You do not know that. Nobody does. If his soil is alive then it may only take a day to a week but if its not alive then it may never break down. organics.
You never cook your soil anerobically .....that dont make any sense whatsoever.
The molasses is just to feed the microbes in the soil ....the food in molasses is not enough to help the plants much if any. YES 1 tbsp per gallon will be just fine. Less is fine , more is not needed. you only need to use it once every 2-4 weeks....once a week will not hurt and may help.
The idea is to get the soil live as possible that way it can break down all the food you are giving them. O2 is your best friend. (perlite in the soil, ect...)
You can use cold water for the molasses but it wont ever mix all the way , so using warm water will speed that up for ya.
getogrow
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You broke the ONLY rule to real organics. Smell. If it stinks then its full of bad bacteria. Thats literally the only thing organic guys can prove. The rest is a guessing game.
Your getting lucky with the good bacteria taking over the bad. No big deal , you can probably keep on doing it but i wouldnt.
How would you ferment molasses and why ? molasses is simply feeding the bacteria and nothing more.
getogrow
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The folier did not cause this....coincidence. thats all. They need a full balanced diet like whats his name is saying and you almost have that but your bacteria is not working as fast as it could be....
lazypothead420
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What can I do to speed up the bacteria? Okay I will go back to giving them a foliar but I'm thinking about cutting it back to once a week. If you don't mind, I'd like to you follow along on my grow journal https://rollitup.org/t/lazypotheads-4x4-critical-kush-geekbeast-grow.1045663/
sirtalis
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My fish emulsion would beg to differ. Smells like ass but is a quick source of nitrogen and doesn't have bad bacteria.
hotrodharley
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I don’t know about people and the smell of organically. I was given 2 bottles each of Iguana Grow and Bloom. Only one bottle of Grow had been opened. The guy said it was shit. It burned his plants and smelled really bad.
Grew up around agriculture. I mixed some half strength and fed 6 plants. In the middle of the night the exhaust fan kicks on and it smelled like a farm. Strongly. Not objectionable to me but I guess it was to my nute donor.
getogrow
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I worded that slightl;y wrong. Fish emulsion dont "stink" it just smells like fish/fish poop ect....
Rotted smell is what im talking about. The smell you get if you try to cook your soil anerobically.
The smell you get if you leave the emulsion open in the sun for a week or two....
The smell of death .... thats the smell of the bad bacteria.
Add enough O2 and your rotted mix will become live and the good will probably take over the bad but no need in chancing it.
getogrow
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Yes , these smells are foul to some but just farmy to others. no big deal. long as the bottle aint completely rotten. litterally.
I gave my plants piss when i was 17. didnt hurt them but i would'nt do it anymore. It would probably add good food if it was outside in nature.
Green Refuge
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I got a similar problem with one of my plants and I never foliar feed anything. Yellowing from bottom up starting from the tips and moving into the plant. I gave it foliar epsom salt last night for the first time. If that doesn't work I will give them amino acids 14-0-0 and see what happens. Im thinking It's either mag, nitrogen or Potassium.
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TaoRich
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Not to be unnecessarily rude ... but the boiling water makes no sense to me.
The point of unsulfured black strap molasses is the natural rhizobacteria content ... all the beneficial life that inhabits the surface of growing sugar cane, that is still left alive after the crushing process to extract the raw sugar juices.
Boiling will kill those.
As will chlorinated tap water.
Perhaps some confusion crept in from a mix of those two ?
- Always unsulfured and preservative free molasses
- Rain water
- or Tap water that has been boiled to drive out the chlorine and then left to cool
The whole point with molasses is the seeding and stimulation of microbial life.
There's very little point in dead sterile molasses. Some, yes ... but not much.
What’s your ratio of epsom salt for foliar spray?
hotrodharley
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1 tablespoon per gallon of water. Use the finest mist possible. Spray tops and bottoms. Either just before lights go off or just after they come on. You can repeat this like every other day for a few times.