Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Thanks I don't have time for these succubant turds
You voted for a psycho turd and still got yer nose shoved up his ass. The brown folks will take over cause they are smarter and better than the white trash that support the republicans, level the playing field and most will leave your kind in the dust and you know it. By all means skip the vaccination, I wonder when the cutoff date will be to have your covid healthcare coverage canceled if you don't have proof of vaccination? Health insurance companies aren't gonna pay for your stupidity and lack of personal responsibility, the democrats want everybody vaccinated ASAP. I figure by fall if you get covid and end up in the hospital, it will be on your own dime and it will save the insurance companies billions of dollars. You'll get no sympathy from the vast majority of Americans on your way to bankruptcy.
 

StonedGardener

Well-Known Member
I made another thread about this awhile ago. A safe and effective vaccine takes 10-15 years to develop. Mostly because the trail periods take so long and you won't know the true side effects sometimes 6 months to a year later.

Nowadays, a new medicine is approved/advertised everyday. ..I read trials......they will make your eyes pop, the low double digit numbered test groups are very comforting ( very many people drop out of trials early due to bad side effects. With vaccines, say Pfizer, trials included tens of thousands. I'd worry more about scripts and the over the counter shit. Take omeprazole......people use for heartburn ( meant for acid reflux).....been on shelf in stores since 1988. SAY WHAT ? It causes cancer.....how can that be..........my neighbor.....omeprazole for last 15yrs......late summer stomach problem........pancreatic cancer......he's at the exit ramp...............,HELL YEA....,I got Pfizered-up..........caught a real nice buzz..............ya gotta be nuts to ask......these viruses are not going anywhere.......I wanna go somewhere sometime.
 

StonedGardener

Well-Known Member
Always loved Vileplume....the smelly bastard....a favorite........how bout Polywhirl......he was woke.....I think......maybe he wasn't, have to look into it.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
That article is accurate according to CDC data from that time, but it's an old article. Here is current data related to possible side effects related to the COVID-19 vaccinations, as shown The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) portion of the CDC website..

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The article I posted was current as of today and the CDC reports that no deaths have been attributed to any of adverse effects of the vaccines.

The chump, @conservative , who just had a meltdown and insulted people who were trying to reason with him cited some bogus numbers from a bimonthly newsletter mostly written by students at SF State.

The article he linked to was written by an osteopath, not an expert in vaccines. Not wanting to dive into the details of that POS article, however. @conservative was using it to say people are dying from the vaccine. There is no evidence for that. Not when the article was written and not now, three months and 1.5 million covid cases later. Virtually all of the Covid-stricken were unvaccinated. As said in the screens you copied: A person who dies and is reported in the database "does not mean that healthcare personnel or the vaccine caused or contributed to the VAERS." Thus far (April 6), every case has been investigated and no evidence was found to link the vaccine to a death.

There are adverse effects to the vaccine. From data thus far, risks of experiencing a difficult VAERS are not even close the risk of Covid if not immune, especially when working or recreating with others.
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
The article I posted was current as of today and the CDC reports that no deaths have been attributed to any of adverse effects of the vaccines.

The chump, @conservative , who just had a meltdown and insulted people who were trying to reason with him cited some bogus numbers from a bimonthly newsletter mostly written by students at SF State.

The article he linked to was written by an osteopath, not an expert in vaccines. Not wanting to dive into the details of that POS article, however. @conservative was using it to say people are dying from the vaccine. There is no evidence for that. Not when the article was written and not now, three months and 1.5 million covid cases later. Virtually all of the Covid-stricken were unvaccinated. As said in the screens you copied: A person who dies and is reported in the database "does not mean that healthcare personnel or the vaccine caused or contributed to the VAERS." Thus far (April 6), every case has been investigated and no evidence was found to link the vaccine to a death.

There are adverse effects to the vaccine. From data thus far risks of that are not even close the risk of Covid if not immune, especially when working or recreating with others.
We can skip the details of that article previously linked. I do think it's important to look at the data however, and realize that some people have died of unknown reasons after receiving covid vaccinations. One thing that's cool about the VAERS portion of the CDC database is that you can read the details of every case. Sure, nothing has been proven conclusively. Would the people have died anyway? Is there a link to the vax and the death? We don't really know, because they have not yet found a way to conclusively link the two. The science is still very young on all of this. That said, I do think it's also a bit irresponsible to say that no one has died from the vaccination, when we really just don't know yet. Science takes a long time to make final determinations. Did anyone ever figure out what Marvin Hagler died from anyway?
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I made another thread about this awhile ago. A safe and effective vaccine takes 10-15 years to develop. Mostly because the trail periods take so long and you won't know the true side effects sometimes 6 months to a year later.

That's the point, it's history and not the current state of the art, the studies were all done in parallel and not sequentially with a six month gap between trials, the trials were telescoped, not skipped. Vaccine approval times have been steadily decreasing over the years and as medical technology and knowledge increase that time frame will only decrease. These highly successful covid vaccines and the vast experience gained will shorten that time frame further, especially with mRNA vaccines. Perhaps you would like to wait for 5 years just to make sure it's perfectly safe? Are you making the perfect the enemy of the good?
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
We can skip the details of that article previously linked. I do think it's important to look at the data however, and realize that some people have died of unknown reasons after receiving covid vaccinations. One thing that's cool about the VAERS portion of the CDC database is that you can read the details of every case. Sure, nothing has been proven conclusively. Would the people have died anyway? Is there a link to the vax and the death? We don't really know, because they have not yet found a way to conclusively link the two. The science is still very young on all of this. That said, I do think it's also a bit irresponsible to say that no one has died from the vaccination, when we really just don't know yet. Science takes a long time to make final determinations. Did anyone ever figure out what Marvin Hagler died from anyway?
Thousands die every year from aspirin and Tylenol poisonings, every medication and some foods are lethal for some people, peanuts can kill too. Put things into perspective, so far nobody has been able to link a death to a vaccine that 167 million people in America have received as a cause of mortality. A little common sense doesn't hurt in these matters either, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
 

StonedGardener

Well-Known Member
We can skip the details of that article previously linked. I do think it's important to look at the data however, and realize that some people have died of unknown reasons after receiving covid vaccinations. One thing that's cool about the VAERS portion of the CDC database is that you can read the details of every case. Sure, nothing has been proven conclusively. Would the people have died anyway? Is there a link to the vax and the death? We don't really know, because they have not yet found a way to conclusively link the two. The science is still very young on all of this. That said, I do think it's also a bit irresponsible to say that no one has died from the vaccination, when we really just don't know yet. Science takes a long time to make final determinations. Did anyone ever figure out what Marvin Hagler died from anyway?
Hearns started that shit....next thing ya know a right-wing paper jumps on the Instagram and off we go......Hearns's instagram has been taken down for some time........I think Marvelous Marvin hammered him big time their last fight (Hagler victory).....knocked something loose.
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
Thousands die every year from aspirin and Tylenol poisonings, every medication and some foods are lethal for some people, peanuts can kill too. Put things into perspective, so far nobody has been able to link a death to a vaccine that 167 million people in America have received as a cause of mortality. A little common sense doesn't hurt in these matters either, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Yeah, well I'm general skeptical of big pharma in general. I also don't take aspirin or Tylenol ever. I do have peanut allergies as well, but not the deadly kind, just the kind where I get congested and stuffy in the nose. I'm actually allergic to many many things, based on blood work done 30 years ago when I was a kid. I was even on an allergy program where I got shots every week. I had a bad reaction once. It wasn't fun. Whatever you consider "common sense" doesn't work for everyone. I'm gonna continue to be skeptical of what doctors prescribe. Honestly they are shooting in the dark much of the time anyway.
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
Hearns started that shit....next thing ya know a right-wing paper jumps on the Instagram and off we go......Hearns's instagram has been taken down for some time........I think Marvelous Marvin hammered him big time their last fight (Hagler victory).....knocked something loose.
I dunno who started it or what, but still doesn't really answer the question now does it?
 

hanimmal

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@Fogdog thank you for going through that troll's link. It is telling that none of the sock puppet trolls took the time to tell you thank you for thoroughly debunking their propaganda for them. They instead focused on small details that they could troll or moved their goal posts to try to pull the blinders on anyone reading this forum that really wants to believe their lies.

This attack on our society using lies and (mostly) right wing (because there are left-trolls) propaganda media is very dangerous and needs to end.
 

StonedGardener

Well-Known Member
@Fogdog thank you for going through that troll's link. It is telling that none of the sock puppet trolls took the time to tell you thank you for thoroughly debunking their propaganda for them. They instead focused on small details that they could troll or moved their goal posts to try to pull the blinders on anyone reading this forum that really wants to believe their lies.

This attack on our society using lies and (mostly) right wing (because there are left-trolls) propaganda media is very dangerous and needs to end.
No wonder so many people irritate me.......I always knew the earth was inhabited by legions of cretins full of greed and idiots......always warned kids how many there were out there......never realized before all this shit we went through and are still plagued with, just how many there are......mind blowing.....what specimens.................lots of the old ex-patriot talk going on around here...I don't dwell on this mess......I get stoned then play in terra firma.......we're on a "private garden trip " up here...it's magical and washes these twisted mutants out of our heads. As Voltaire (Candide) said.........." cultivate your garden".....,,your mind.
 
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