What do you guys think about my girls are they ok?

[Chefsupe96]

Ok so I’m new at growing but I’ve been studying a lot of videos and I’m even growing right now as a test trial to figure out what to do and what not to do . So I have 6 growing right now and I’m starting to notice some folding of the leaves and a little color change I really would like an expert opinion on if I’m doing something right or what I should stop using for them really would appreciate any comments thank you .

 

[leather lungs]

Might be a little crowded. How long are you going too veg?

 

[Bsmoke78]

Ok so I’m new at growing but I’ve been studying a lot of videos and I’m even growing right now as a test trial to figure out what to do and what not to do . So I have 6 growing right now and I’m starting to notice some folding of the leaves and a little color change I really would like an expert opinion on if I’m doing something right or what I should stop using for them really would appreciate any comments thank you .

Very crowded like a concert and when the show starts going to get crazy in there

 

[Bsmoke78]

Ok so I’m new at growing but I’ve been studying a lot of videos and I’m even growing right now as a test trial to figure out what to do and what not to do . So I have 6 growing right now and I’m starting to notice some folding of the leaves and a little color change I really would like an expert opinion on if I’m doing something right or what I should stop using for them really would appreciate any comments thank you .

Put two outside if can 4 would do way better in there and give less problems in future

 

[Dank Bongula]

How would anyone make recommendations for you to do or not to do if you don't state what exactly you are already doing?

 

[Chefsupe96]

Might be a little crowded. How long are you going too veg?

Ok I figured that thanks for the advice and I’m putting them into flower tomorrow was going to try and stretch about her day for veg

 

[Chefsupe96]

Very crowded like a concert and when the show starts going to get crazy in there

thanks for the advice

 

[Chefsupe96]

Put two outside if can 4 would do way better in there and give less problems in future

Will do high appreciate that

 

[jochhe1998]

Hey man. If you train them well they'd all fit but that'd require some intense defoliation as well - I would recommend removing some as well.

As far as the girls, they look a little hungry. At first glance, it looks like you have some Nitrogen or Potassium deficiencies. You have some interveinal chlorosis and yellowing at the tips.

What medium do you have them in and what nutrients are you giving them?

A good bit of advice I got early on. The first thing you check is over/under watering, the second thing you check is PH, the third thing you check is salt buildup - this will solve 95% of your problems early on.

If those are not fixing your issues, check your NPK and Cal-Mag ppms. In my experience, deficiencies are rarely micronutrient-based.

Hope this helps.

 

[Chefsupe96]

Really appreciate the help I’m goin to start defoliating then I kind of figured I was going have to do that ASAP . The medium is coco and I used 4-4-4 azos and oyster shells when I first transplanted them into the 5 gallon bag pots . What do you suggest I feed them ? I’ve been scared don’t really want to over nutrient them . I figured it was potassium or nitrogen so it must be from either the 4-4-4 the kelp or alfalfa meal I used three days ago to feed them . I will check everything you just let me know to make sure it’s not one of those problems really appreciate the help .!

 

[jochhe1998]

Hey Chefsupe,

If you're not having issues with PH you have a couple of options. The issue with organics is once you spot a deficiency it's too late to correct it with organic amendments. I would get some organic bottle nutes or brew up a worm/compost tea for the ladies.

Also, if you have a very strong and healthy root zone it creates its own micro-climate around the roots and the PH of the water will not be the PH of your medium. This is why people say you get a "buffer" when growing with organics. Even if you give the plant 4.0 Ph water the microbes and fungi in the rhizosphere will regulate everything so you wouldn't notice much of a difference until several weeks of low PH watering - if you've been giving them low/high PH water for extended periods of time this could be your issue.

The organic buffer is usually helpful but could be a bit of a nuisance If your soil is bacterially dominated. Bacterial-dominated soils typically have a higher root zone PH and convert nitrogen to nitrates (great for vegetables but not cannabis) which can slow nitrogen absorption.

If you haven't added any before, mycorrhizae of some sort or a fungally dominated compost are really nice to add. Fungally dominated soils tend to rely on ammonia for nitrogen absorption (great for cannabis).

But remember to take everything you hear with a grain of salt! Only you can really know what your plants need - with a little guidance of course .

Happy Growing man

 

[Chefsupe96]

Im not sure Im going to check the medium ph but When I have been watering I usually ph the water to 6.3-6.5 range so you think I should lower that ? I was thinking about brewing a tea but now I’m definitely going to do that and hopefully it brings them back . I used azos bacteria so you think that may be the problem ? I used mykos mychorrizae from the beginning I never knew I could fed the plants more though . I’m soaking everything in bro I really appreciate the guidance you know a lot of people really be selfish with the knowledge sometimes.

 

[jochhe1998]

Hey,

6.2 - 6.5 PH should be perfect.

Honestly, I'm not familiar with those products per se - I just know the theory behind it all.

Azos mycho is supposed to be good. If that's what you've been giving it they are probably just hungry.

I would top-dress them from now and then give them a Tea now. Maybe follow up with another tea in a week as well.

And lol - I was in your shoes last year so I know exactly what it's like. I can't tell you how many people are pretentious when it comes to growing. You just gotta go at everything with an open mind.

 

[jochhe1998]

It really is a great hobby. My family has been into plants a lot. Weed is what got me into growing in general (my specialty is still the devil's lettuce though lol).

My country has pretty bad food security so I'd like to get into the agriculture industry when I finish school - hence why I'm trying to absorb so much information.

Some more advice I've found helpful is to find trustworthy resources (you can try to get academic ones but they are rare) and stick with them.

Right after pretentious growers are bad advice and knowledge! A lot of people on these forums are great though - lots of experience.

 

[Chefsupe96]

Checked the medium and moisture levels so it could be the interveinal chlorosis like you said I’m going to get the supplies for the tea and hopefully that fixes the problem . What do you suggest I top dress them with ? But it’s really crazy bro I wanted to do it for a long time now so I just figured why not jump into it you know . It’s really been fun just seeing them grow . The devils lettuce lol I understand. What country ? Im tryin to absorb as much as I can myself I’m glad I found this website

 

[jochhe1998]

I'm glad you're giving it a try. Your first proper harvest is so rewarding you won't forget it.

Honestly not too sure re. top dressing. I only know how to make nutrient profiles with synthetics for now. A safe bet might be to just add some more 4-4-4.

I would try and find someone who grows with your main fertilizer ie. Azos 4-4-4 and see what recipe/topdressing regime they use and just copy them. All fertilizers regiments require a lot of fine-tuning and someone has almost always already done the digging

Also, some advice when looking at organic fertilizers - all the NPK values are off!. That 4-4-4 could be 6-4-5 and those microbes are going to break down different things differently. That 6-4-5 might break down into 5-1-2! (of course, these are extreme examples). Manufactures can get sued if they fall under their "Guaranteed Analysis" values so they usually overshoot. So again, take people's stuff with a grain of salt!

 

[Chefsupe96]

Appreciate everything you’ve said to me and that would be great if you find that out please let me know lol . Thank you though I do appreciate the help

 

[MICHI-CAN]

WHOAH! You have some issues there.

A few answers please.?
Are you using tap water.
What is your final ph before feeding?
And synthetics?

 

[Chefsupe96]

I’m growing in coco and Yeah tap water but I ph it 6.3-6.5
I used mykos mychorrizael 4-4-4 , oyster shells ,
Azos bacteria , and worm castings

 

[MICHI-CAN]

I’m growing in coco and Yeah tap water but I ph it 6.3-6.5
I used mykos mychorrizael 4-4-4 , oyster shells ,
Azos bacteria , and worm castings

I'm soil now. But you can't replace it in hydro with amendments. I see you as in the middle of the road I'm learning. Pick a lane. Some similarities but vastly opposing.

Your method is beyond me. I humbly regret.