Dr. Bruce Bugbee method: NASA technique on Mars etc.

Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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Another guy with lots of info, RAW nutrient line. Bugbee has broader spectrum of info, but good feed is part of it. I take from many to make my own way. Everyone has something to offer, even noobs! Imo, only.
 
downhill21

downhill21

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BIGBALLSJOE said:
yes in fact in hydro medium you can't overwater by giving too much water

can happen in soil because it has a high water retention and low oxygen content
if you water too much soil with small plants not already established they can show overwatering signs

i dont know the bruce bugbee method but i think its similar to flock rockwool
will allow you to feed several times a day since the day 1 because of the high oxygenation of the medium
with big runoffs you will always get the ec/ph levels inside the medium in check, and get the fastest growth rate and health
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Apologies for my own ocd, but I never heard Bugbee refer to a / his “method.” His lectures cover a pretty broad variety of factors influencing plant (cannabis) growth & shape. He devotes about 5-10 minutes of one video to Utah State’s conclusions on soil / medium. He does state that they found this “soil recipe” to be “best.” I’m trying it myself right now. First time out of soil for me so finding a steep learning curve. Good luck guys. I’ll watch closely & attentively.
 
BonnMac

BonnMac

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Southernontariogrower said:
pretty girl, didnt fade much or just pic?
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Thanks Southern Ontario.
I think I could have easily given her another week but the larger plant she was growing with is ready for harvest.

I live in a small space and the only place to dry is in the tent they’re both growing in, so I had to strike a balance - Have the older plant ripen a little bit longer in order for the smaller plant to mature adequately enough to be cut down at the same time.

This was my first grow and I now realize that my 2x4 tent can only grow one plant in a 5 gallon in a space that size, anyway. At least with this hybrid, which was Blue Mystic.
 
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F2GD

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My pH is still creeping down to 5. Watering every 3-4 days when the mix is dry. Water in us 6.5ec. I also found while watering the first but if runoff is around 1.3 but then if I go over 25% runoff it starts climbing up. Is this a sign of overwatering in terms of volume, or not flushing the ions out (see a purple spot showing low phosphorus but ik it has enough so I think the pH is affecting uptake)
 
TOWERSGROW

TOWERSGROW

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Hello everybody, I’m new of this forum ...wanna share about Bugbee soil recipe :

I live in Europe so ,some of the components bugbee use can be different from mine even if
Dolomite is dolomite and Gypsum is Gypsum .
I want write about that cause my experience has been quite dramatic.

50%peat @3.5 ph
50%vermiculite
Gypsum and dolomite

I lost 3 cycle doing that .
My buds does not grow . Vegetative stage was fine. Roots grow quick in all that vermiculite .
But for 3 time I fucked up the flowering stage with this formula .
full respect to mr Bugbee
It obviously something make it tricky .
For about 9month I believed in his recipe ( I followed with accuracy with the right dose of gypsum and dolomite ) but during flower the bud doesn’t grow and was a nightmare !!!
Its more than 20 years I grow .. I’m not perfect but even not a disaster .
Nutrients were balanced as chart ( canna nutrients) ph balanced .
2000w of HPS lights for 36 plants .temps and RH fine .
I think that I went in nutrients lockdown due to hard managing of soil ph ( that’s the more probable explanation)
I turned back to my old soil and things get back normal ...but I ruined 3 harvest ... ( superfluffy buds ... ridicolous harvest .. to cry about )
Anyone had my same experience ?

In the beginning I didn’t want to believe was the soil ,but after 3 flowering of shit I realized that..
Thank you
 
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F2GD

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I am thinking of swapping the medium to Coco Coir + Dolomite + Gypsum to keep the Ph stable in the 5.5-6.5 range. Same nutes to water with. I might even scrap the dolomite as it won't be needed to neutralize any pH over time and I am supplementing my water with Cal Mag, the gypsum should break down by the time the plants hit bloom which is when the silica is needed. I got incredibly stunted growth (1/3rd normal rate) from this pH problem so I do need to find a solution quick
 
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JonCreighton

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TOWERSGROW said:
Hello everybody, I’m new of this forum ...wanna share about Bugbee soil recipe :

I live in Europe so ,some of the components bugbee use can be different from mine even if
Dolomite is dolomite and Gypsum is Gypsum .
I want write about that cause my experience has been quite dramatic.

50%peat @3.5 ph
50%vermiculite
Gypsum and dolomite

I lost 3 cycle doing that .
My buds does not grow . Vegetative stage was fine. Roots grow quick in all that vermiculite .
But for 3 time I fucked up the flowering stage with this formula .
full respect to mr Bugbee
It obviously something make it tricky .
For about 9month I believed in his recipe ( I followed with accuracy with the right dose of gypsum and dolomite ) but during flower the bud doesn’t grow and was a nightmare !!!
Its more than 20 years I grow .. I’m not perfect but even not a disaster .
Nutrients were balanced as chart ( canna nutrients) ph balanced .
2000w of HPS lights for 36 plants .temps and RH fine .
I think that I went in nutrients lockdown due to hard managing of soil ph ( that’s the more probable explanation)
I turned back to my old soil and things get back normal ...but I ruined 3 harvest ... ( superfluffy buds ... ridicolous harvest .. to cry about )
Anyone had my same experience ?

In the beginning I didn’t want to believe was the soil ,but after 3 flowering of shit I realized that..
Thank you
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bugbee is pulling secondary nuits from the medium (gypsom and dolemite) + tap water. if u got all that going on plus a regular cannabis nuitrents that already includes trhat stuff u could be having problems w nuitent sums.. calcium accumulation ect.
thats why he rccomnds the pete 20-10-20. it has no secondary nuits in it basically.
 
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JonCreighton

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F2GD said:
I am thinking of swapping the medium to Coco Coir + Dolomite + Gypsum to keep the Ph stable in the 5.5-6.5 range. Same nutes to water with. I might even scrap the dolomite as it won't be needed to neutralize any pH over time and I am supplementing my water with Cal Mag, the gypsum should break down by the time the plants hit bloom which is when the silica is needed. I got incredibly stunted growth (1/3rd normal rate) from this pH problem so I do need to find a solution quick
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why not just add more dolimitc lime to the original mix. what was it 40g p/cuft go up to 50 or 60g cubic foot. i make the mix... run a little water thru. test the runoff. then add a little more lime. maybe its the pete in my area but im usually pribable up around 50-60 g cubic foot.
 
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