Yikes. Found this:
Politicians facing prison time are very dangerous things, that's what drove much of Trump's desperation. He wanted to lose the election to Clinton remember, that was the plan, but with the help of the Russians he fucked that up too and was then trapped in an all or nothing situation. This idea of not being able to accept a loss was just another layer of deception, he knew that if he lost before he could run out the statute of limitations, he would end up in prison.
Gee. Where have we heard that before?
Something I wonder is, how much of this is really new and how much is just because people generally exist "in the now"..? I've got to imagine that after the civil rights movement, there must have been racist flareups for a few years here and there as legislation attempted to force fairness, and we know how much whites love being forced to be fair. It seems like there's just no way it's been smooth sailing for 60 years and then there's a big blowup now. In the last thirty years, I can't personally recall a period of racial conflict, beyond maybe Rodney King, but even then seemed very different, in that, I don't recall much of an opposing view. It was shitty and that was that, but at the same time, my awareness of social issues back then was terrible. Anyway, the reason why I'm curious about this is, what did it take in the past for the hate fueled rednecks to chill the fk out?
It is a time of political polarization in America, all of the racists are now in one party without any moderating influences. The republican party is under the control of the most extremist elements of the base and lead by unprincipled con artists who only want power, or to avoid prison. As long as the racists were in both parties they could compromise with bipartisanship, those days are over now, black people and other minorities are very strong in the democratic party, nobody is gonna throw them under the bus any more.
I don't know that I'd paint such a binary picture. Trump gained black voters in 2020. We forget how conservative black folks can be. I did find this:
blackdemographics.com
This is why the left should have embraced law enforcement, especially after 1/6. They haven't done that at all. It's a missed opportunity that could cost us the country. With law enforcement being predominantly right and with about half the the right being completely crazy, and with the left telling them they're pieces of shit everyday, who are you really fighting for at that point? They'd just fold and assimilate with the heavily armed people that have had their back on the job.
That always is the end game, get rid of everyone that doesn't look and/or think like me. Most of the world would be on the left's side with any type of infighting, but with a bunch of crazy rednecks in charge of military branches, their hands would be tied. Then again, at that point it'd be like the nazi's all over again and you know that any group of crazy nationalists are never satisfied keeping to themselves. Easy to slippery slope our way into global chaos.
The choice for black people (and all minorities) in America is stark, the GOP is a political wing of the KKK now! Racism is the cement that holds the republicans together, if it wasn't for fear and the resultant hate, they would break apart and scatter to the four directions like from the tower of Babble. The greed driven one way the lunatics another and the hardcore racists still another, the whiteness unites them and it's regional and rural core speaks to this as well.I don't know that I'd paint such a binary picture. Trump gained black voters in 2020. We forget how conservative black folks can be. I did find this:
POLITICS - BlackDemographics.com
Black Party Affiliation African Americans have a history in both major political parties of the United States. After the Civil War almost all Blacks considered them-selves Republicans. It was the Republican Party that was started by abolitionists and of course the party of President Abraham...
Which I think would show 2020 continuing the same trend since 2008. It shows more people leaving their red/blue party affiliation, but of those that leave, that group leans more red.
This is why the left should have embraced law enforcement, especially after 1/6. They haven't done that at all. It's a missed opportunity that could cost us the country. With law enforcement being predominantly right and with about half the the right being completely crazy, and with the left telling them they're pieces of shit everyday, who are you really fighting for at that point? They'd just fold and assimilate with the heavily armed people that have had their back on the job.
That always is the end game, get rid of everyone that doesn't look and/or think like me. Most of the world would be on the left's side with any type of infighting, but with a bunch of crazy rednecks in charge of military branches, their hands would be tied. Then again, at that point it'd be like the nazi's all over again and you know that any group of crazy nationalists are never satisfied keeping to themselves. Easy to slippery slope our way into global chaos.
I think you have results from 1932 mixed up with the 1933 election. Hitler got 43% of the vote not very different from Trump's 46% in 2020. But, yeah, agree with your premise. Put GOP back in power and they will end the US as a democratic republic.
en.wikipedia.org
The force driving this shit is globalization, mass mixing of cultures, multiculturalism, transport and communications technologies. In America these propensities were seeded and amplified by existing historical racism and civil war and are now combined with xenophobia and other bigotries. You are seeing a tribalization backlash in many European cultures too like France, Holland, Germany, and Sweden as well as the UK. In American it's built on top of historical bullshit and amplified by the fact that the majority of new immigrants are not white and won't be. America needs immigrants to maintain population levels as does almost every affluent country with female emancipation and empowerment.I think you have results from 1932 mixed up with the 1933 election. Hitler got 43% of the vote not very different from Trump's 46% in 2020. But, yeah, agree with your premise. Put GOP back in power and they will end the US as a democratic republic.
Per wikipedia:
March 1933 German federal election - Wikipedia
Despite achieving a much better result than in the November 1932 election, the Nazis did not do as well as Hitler had hoped. In spite of massive violence and voter intimidation,[1][2] the Nazis won only 43.9% of the vote, rather than the majority that he had expected.
Then there was the Reichstag fire, the emergency powers given to then-chancellor Hitler, the arrest of Hitler's opposition in the Reichstag and finally, his being granted dictatorial powers by the rump legislature, which sealed the fates of hundreds of millions of people in the decade to come.
Hitler "only" got 43% of the vote in 1933 even with 50,000 poll watchers like the one to the right in the picture:
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Note the police officer on the left. Reminds me of Portland Police and Proud Boys last summer. There are many echoes from the past in today's drama. The current round of voter suppression laws include more partisan poll watchers empowered to interfere with the election and ahead of the election, they will have the power to challenge the rights of others to vote without giving good reasons for the challenge.
I also stand corrected, just writing from memory, not referencing, it's just a weed forum!I think you have results from 1932 mixed up with the 1933 election. Hitler got 43% of the vote not very different from Trump's 46% in 2020. But, yeah, agree with your premise. Put GOP back in power and they will end the US as a democratic republic.
Per wikipedia:
March 1933 German federal election - Wikipedia
Despite achieving a much better result than in the November 1932 election, the Nazis did not do as well as Hitler had hoped. In spite of massive violence and voter intimidation,[1][2] the Nazis won only 43.9% of the vote, rather than the majority that he had expected.
Then there was the Reichstag fire, the emergency powers given to then-chancellor Hitler, the arrest of Hitler's opposition in the Reichstag and finally, his being granted dictatorial powers by the rump legislature, which sealed the fates of hundreds of millions of people in the decade to come.
Hitler "only" got 43% of the vote in 1933 even with 50,000 poll watchers like the one to the right in the picture:
View attachment 4919642
Note the police officer on the left. Reminds me of Portland Police and Proud Boys last summer. There are many echoes from the past in today's drama. The current round of voter suppression laws include more partisan poll watchers empowered to interfere with the election and ahead of the election, they will have the power to challenge the rights of others to vote without giving good reasons for the challenge.
I think it might be worth thinking of the 'flair ups' as when people push back on the unrelenting racist shit.
I call bullshit on the 'left' trolling.
Of course. You made a simple mistake about an insignificant but easily verified fact and moved on. You don't get your ego wrapped up in being right all the time like SOME people who post here. And then they continue to dig deeper into the hole they put themselves in.I also stand corrected, just writing from memory, not referencing, it's just a weed forum!
It is interesting how it seems that all at once not just in the US but many countries are dealing with a resurgent right wing authoritarian-nationalist populist movement.
Putin has big goals.
You're basically saying that what's historically caused the rednecks to chill out, is pushback? Sure doesn't seem to be working this time and they're getting plenty of it.
Que? Not trolling. Jan 6th stuff aside, the general reality is that the right gobbles policeman's knobs and the left trashes them for being too harsh. I'm not saying the left's views on police brutality is at all wrong, it's just that maybe the general condemning(which isn't trolling) is going to backfire, if things ever get really ugly. I'm assuming we view Jan 6th as a bad thing, so we should realize that, if not for the police, the capitol would still be smeared with shit and have a bunch of rednecks inside looking to murder people. You kinda need the police to help with those problems. Ask any of them if they feel socially supported by democrat voters and you'll get a pretty resounding "no" across the board.
I mean more like "use the cops..." except I'd rather not think of it as "using them", more like appreciating the fact that, in times like this, their potential willingness to fight the white nationalists, aka republicans and traitorous law enforcement, could very easily be the difference between getting through this somehow and completely losing the nation to modern day nazis.
There is a big difference between trolls making it seem like the 'left' is attacking police, and reality.
Absolutely. This is why I hope that they are trying to get our police (who have been sucked into the same attack everyone else in our nation has) deradicalized from their online/tv/hate radio propaganda sources by hopefully waking them up to how they got radicalized by it.
I really am not sure what I typed or why, it was left over from before and I didn't notice it until afterwards on this part.