Gavita Pro 1700e LED vs. Medic Grow Fold-8

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SSHZ

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I won a Medic Grow LED in a contest, but I am currently using the Gavita's in my grow........ I'm trying to analyze whether I should replace on the Gavita's with this new LED when it arrives...... here's the spec's"

Gavita Medic Grow

Price $1200 $655 (before discounts)

Watts 645 720

Dimmable NO YES

Efficacy 2.6 umols 2.7 umols

Drivers Sosan Philips

Weight 26.5 lbs. 28.4 lbs

Warranty 3 years 3 years

# of diodes 2800+64 3300+64

Foldable YES NO

Adjust. Spectrum YES NO

Waterproof ? YES

Customer Service Both company's seem responsive to questions or issues

umol @ 24 inches Both report 930 in specs


More to come when it arrives.......... and I'll detail the unboxing.
 
Alctrz8849

Alctrz8849

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SSHZ said:
I won a Medic Grow LED in a contest, but I am currently using the Gavita's in my grow........ I'm trying to analyze whether I should replace on the Gavita's with this new LED when it arrives...... here's the spec's"

Gavita Medic Grow

Price $1200 $655 (before discounts)

Watts 645 720

Dimmable NO YES

Efficacy 2.6 umols 2.7 umols

Drivers Sosan Philips

Weight 26.5 lbs. 28.4 lbs

Warranty 3 years 3 years

# of diodes 2800+64 3300+64

Foldable YES NO

Adjust. Spectrum YES NO

Waterproof ? YES

Customer Service Both company's seem responsive to questions or issues

umol @ 24 inches Both report 930 in specs


More to come when it arrives.......... and I'll detail the unboxing.
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I requested the specs from the MFR. It looks comparable to my Fluence Spydr 2P but the light you're using is arguably just as good by the stats you shared. Personally, I'd take the path of least resistance and set up another grow tent! Lol

Congrats on winning the light!!
 
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SSHZ

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Thanks......the wife is resisting the idea. 2 Gavita's was already stretching it a bit, 3 LED's might cause some marital issues. I'd have to set up another room too, which I have but it would be at some expense for all the new equipment (fan, exhaust, Phresh filter, etc.). I'm going to use it, just not sure now or in a new grow.

The price makes you question the quality, but I've seen some really good Youtube reviews, and it appears to be a solid LED and a best buy based on price.
 
Alctrz8849

Alctrz8849

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SSHZ said:
Thanks......the wife is resisting the idea. 2 Gavita's was already stretching it a bit, 3 LED's might cause some marital issues. I'd have to set up another room too, which I have but it would be at some expense for all the new equipment (fan, exhaust, Phresh filter, etc.). I'm going to use it, just not sure now or in a new grow.
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Fair enough! Hobby and home life gotta have balance!
 
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jonnynobody

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$1200 for 720 watts of output just blows my mind. I got 2 660's on alibaba for $650 delivered. Do you guys really feel like your lighting expense is money well spent? I can buy 4 660's for the price of 1 of those 720w units. That's just bananas. You guys are a hydro shop's wet dream :)

I just unloaded all my HID. Previously ran HID / LED mixed. The thought of spending what you guys are spending makes me laugh and then it makes me sad. Then I laugh again :)

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Just firing up the latest cycle with all LED. 1 660w unit1 lm301 diodes and mean well drivers. 3000k/5000k mixed spectrum. 2 660w units in 3500k spectrum. 1 450w unit. And lastly 2 1000w COB's to get the 450w qb up to the same output as the 660's. Waiting on 2 more 240w qb's to arrive. It's gonna be awesome. And my purchases aren't going to cause my wife to have a bitch fit :)
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jonnynobody said:
$1200 for 720 watts of output just blows my mind. I got 2 660's on alibaba for $650 delivered. Do you guys really feel like your lighting expense is money well spent? I can buy 4 660's for the price of 1 of those 720w units. That's just bananas. You guys are a hydro shop's wet dream :)

I just unloaded all my HID. Previously ran HID / LED mixed. The thought of spending what you guys are spending makes me laugh and then it makes me sad. Then I laugh again :)

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Just firing up the latest cycle with all LED. 1 660w unit1 lm301 diodes and mean well drivers. 3000k/5000k mixed spectrum. 2 660w units in 3500k spectrum. 1 450w unit. And lastly 2 1000w COB's to get the 450w qb up to the same output as the 660's. Waiting on 2 more 240w qb's to arrive. It's gonna be awesome. And my purchases aren't going to cause my wife to have a bitch fit :)
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Cheap LEDs aren't going to fix your overfeeding issues. And you have 4 panels fired up for 2 plants? Makes me laugh and then sad. Then I laughed again.
 
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jonnynobody

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twentyeight.threefive said:
Cheap LEDs aren't going to fix your overfeeding and issues. And you have 4 panels fired up for 2 plants? Makes me laugh and then sad. Then I laughed again.
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What over feeding issue? I run 675-725 ppm. If you think that's over feeding I'd sure love to see your garden.

I see you're slightly incompetent. Let me help you out here with logic and sequence of events. After a harvest there is much work to be done even after the trimming and drying is over. The flower room has to be sanitized with a 10% bleach solution. Walls, floor, equipment, and everything in between. All fans have to be disassembled,cleaned, reassembled, and reinstalled. HVAC needs to be readjusted according to new environmental conditions. It's not cold anymore like it was for the last flower cycle. It's now hot. Very hot. All of these things take time. Again, I understand how a person like you fails to understand these things. After all of those things are complete you then have the opportunity to move plants in. That single plant is a critical mass that requires extensive training to spread the canopy. For that process you do not want other plants in the room. I have 3 nurseries that house the rest of my vegging plants. After the large plant is spread out and trained the remaining plants will enter the flower room. It's a methodical process. Not a haphazard fuck job.

As you can see by my pre harvest picture from my last flower cycle my room produces and produces well. I love people like you. You think you have a lot more figured out than you do. You're adorable like a retarded puppy. You make people happy in the same way. How often do people just come up to you and give you a nice scratch behind the ears and a rub on the tummy?
 
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jonnynobody

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The bigger reason she's in there all by her lonesome is she's a fucking monster and would no longer fit in a 5x5. I'm sure you have the same problem?

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bk78

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You’re claiming pretty much the best yields on the planet with the gavita, and you want to switch to something else?

What’s the latest claims? Are you up to 4 pounds off 640w yet?
 
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jonnynobody

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twentyeight.threefive said:
Such a monster that you have to stake it up.
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Staking is to spread the canopy. String is to hold heavy flowers so they don't fall over. Are you sure you actually grow pot or do you just have a house plant in the window? I've never had to explain these things before to someone that actually grows.
 
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jonnynobody

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twentyeight.threefive said:
Here let me help you. Pretty sure burnt turned up tips aren't normal. Quick highlight job to aid you. You get called out and result to calling people a retarded puppy. Well done. Your grow has more strings than Geppetto.

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Burned tips at the top of the canopy is due to heat and low light distance to the canopy. I was running 2 1000w hps lamps, 2 600w hps lamps, a 660w qb, a 450w qb, and 2 100w COB's. The HID's were run in +15% overdrive. That's not a nutritive issue retard. That's a low ceiling and heat issue. Yet another reason I switched to all LED. The light is lower profile allowing me more headspace for the canopy.

Can we see some of your garden pictures now? I rarely get advice from a pro like yourself. I'd love to see your work.
 
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jonnynobody

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twentyeight.threefive said:
Real plants are thick enough that they don't need to be staked.
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You're really not grasping the concept of staking or the purpose of stakes are you? Let's try this again. I'm going to hold your hand and walk you through this. Stakes are used to spread out the canopy in veg prior to flower. This allows for better light penetration of the canopy maximizing light exposure to more flower sites. This results in higher yields than allowing a plant to grow in a christmas tree structure particularly when combined with extensive topping. For fuck's sake you sure are a slow learner.

So I ask you to post pictures of your work and you post a picture of a plant stalk with some larfy popcorn buds? Okay then.
 
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