Obama interview on 60 minutes

[medicineman]

Did anyone watch the Obama interview on 60 minutes last night? Did anyone not watch the man and come away with the impression that this is one genuine caring individual. Did you see the way he smiled, so easily and genuinely. What makes anyone think he would veto a pot decriminalization bill?

 

[Keenly]

the government propaganda in the sixtys and 70's that caused it to happen in the first place

 

[medicineman]

the government propaganda in the sixtys and 70's that caused it to happen in the first place

I'll bet you a grand, that if congress sends him a decriminalization bill, he'll sign it. Now, time to get busy pestering congress while we have a president that would sign it.

 

[ViRedd]

I saw the interview ... in fact I taped it and watched it this morning. It was absolutely delightful.

Obama and his wife came across very well indeed. Very pleasant and great smiles. He seems to be very kind ... and both are extremely self confident. I loved the way Obama talked about his two beautiful girls. Kind of reminded me of how I felt about my own girls when they were the ages of Barak and Michell's girls.

Now ... what are his ideas again?


Vi

 

[GoodFriend]

shhhhhhhh

maybe if ALL he does is decrim pot we'll all have something to cheer for!?!?!?!


=]

 

[Doctor Pot]

If you didn't see it, it's on CBS's web site here:

60 Minutes, 11.16.08 Video - CBSNews.com

 

[medicineman]

shhhhhhhh

maybe if ALL he does is decrim pot we'll all have something to cheer for!?!?!?!


=]

What if he actually turns this country around? Would you cheer then?

 

[Twistyman]

Did anyone watch the Obama interview on 60 minutes last night? Did anyone not watch the man and come away with the impression that this is one genuine caring individual. Did you see the way he smiled, so easily and genuinely. What makes anyone think he would veto a pot decriminalization bill?

I just got so tired of Bush's cynical smirk.. now our PM as taken it on.. always drove me nuts how fake and forced it looked......
I think when all is said and done Obama will prove to be the real face of change for the better.. the world needs that now......
Hi MM...

 

[GoodFriend]

What if he actually turns this country around? Would you cheer then?

tbh
i put no hope in any politician really

and ya know what? he will probably provide A LOT of aid to those asking for it



but at what cost?
... and am i gonna have to pay for any of it?

see i don't think obama is a bad person, or is going to be a "bad" leader/president/whatever
but the way i think this country should be run
and the way he thinks it should

are two very different things


if he turns this country around will i cheer? no, cuz i'm sure shits still gonna suck after he's gone in 8 years




...i just hope to be left the fuck alone

 

[NorthwestBuds]

tbh
i put no hope in any politician really

and ya know what? he will probably provide A LOT of aid to those asking for it



but at what cost?
... and am i gonna have to pay for any of it?

see i don't think obama is a bad person, or is going to be a "bad" leader/president/whatever
but the way i think this country should be run
and the way he thinks it should

are two very different things


if he turns this country around will i cheer? no, cuz i'm sure shits still gonna suck after he's gone in 8 years




...i just hope to be left the fuck alone

How would you run the country and why would your ideas be better than Obama's?

 

[medicineman]

How would you run the country and why would your ideas be better than Obama's?

You took the words right out of my mouth. I guess if one wanted to be, "left the fuck alone", they could move to another country, Antartica comes to mind.

 

[GoodFriend]

You took the words right out of my mouth. I guess if one wanted to be, "left the fuck alone", they could move to another country, Antartica comes to mind.

why?

why must i move to another country???



... and i don't quite have time, or energy, to come up with a whole platform for you guys.... but the gist of it
small federal government, lots of states rights

i'd much rather just move states than move countries/continents....


...

 

[ViRedd]

Small central government? State's rights? Freedom? Liberty?

What the hell, man ... you trying to subvert the country into thinking like Thomas Jefferson or something?

Vi

 

[GoodFriend]

Small central government? State's rights? Freedom? Liberty?

What the hell, man ... you trying to subvert the country into thinking like Thomas Jefferson or something?

Vi

.................... who's john galt?

 

[Doctor Pot]

.................... who's john galt?

I liked that book when I first read it, then over the weeks realized how much nonsense it all was.

Especially the part about engineering. She got it all wrong!

 

[GoodFriend]

I liked that book when I first read it, then over the weeks realized how much nonsense it all was.

Especially the part about engineering. She got it all wrong!

i really want to believe in the cloaking device though!!!

 

[ViRedd]

I liked that book when I first read it, then over the weeks realized how much nonsense it all was.

Especially the part about engineering. She got it all wrong!

Over the weeks?

Atlas Shrugged is a book that will live on forever. Try re-reading it again. Its very appropriate for today. And ... there really is a hidden valley up there in the mountains of Colorado where money is gold and gold is money. Where achievement is by far a greater virtue than need. Where the minds of men can flourish without the looters destroying incentive.

I saw in another thread where you said you're an engineer. That explains a lot.

Vi

 

[Doctor Pot]

Over the weeks?

Atlas Shrugged is a book that will live on forever. Try re-reading it again. Its very appropriate for today. And ... there really is a hidden valley up there in the mountains of Colorado where money is gold and gold is money. Where achievement is by far a greater virtue than need. Where the minds of men can flourish without the looters destroying incentive.

... where people can invent stuff without having to worry about those pesky laws of physics.

By 'over the weeks' I meant over the weeks after I read it, as I thought about it.

I saw in another thread where you said you're an engineer. That explains a lot.

Oh? I'm curious what you mean... Personally, I think engineers are more grounded in reality than most other disciplines. As an engineer, if you're wrong all the time, your shit doesn't work. The fact that you can't BS your way through an engineering job is refreshing.

 

[ViRedd]

Oh? I'm curious what you mean...[/color] Personally, I think engineers are more grounded in reality than most other disciplines. As an engineer, if you're wrong all the time, your shit doesn't work. The fact that you can't BS your way through an engineering job is refreshing.

OK, but don't get angry or offended by what I'm going to say. Nothing personal intended here at all.

Being in the people business (sales) as long as I have has taught me how to deal with a multitude of personality types. One of the most difficult to deal with are those with an "engineering" mentality. You guys are quite different from "normal" people.

Don't get me wrong here ... you engineer types have a lot in which to be admired for. For one thing, you always measure twice and cut once. Some of you measure twenty times and cut once though ... and that tends to drive "normal" people a little batty ... like your spouses, children and real estate salesmen for example. Another thing to admire about you guys is that most of you really plan for your future, like retirement and such. You pay your bills on time ... on line. You are astute shoppers and know where to find the bargains ... and you have your monthly subscription to Consumer Reports to tell you what the best buys are. You usually take out fully amortized, fifteen year loans on your real estate because you've figured out that you'll save hundreds of thousands of dollars in interest that way. Besides, its all part of your one year plan, your five year plan, your ten year plan and your thirty year plan.

Now the other part ... and this deals with the personality's major fear. Don't get me wrong - every personality has it's own major fear that is unique to it ... and that drives it. The engineering mentality's major fear is fear of criticism. Think about it, Dr. Pot ... how do you react to criticism? Do you have a hard time even dealing with an unsolicited suggestion? A lot of engineering types do, you know.

This fear of criticism is one of the things that attracts a person to engineering. Its math. Two plus two is always four. Four plus four is always eight. No one can ever criticize that.

Fear of criticism is what causes the engineer to suffer from analysis paralysis ... you know, like trying to decide what to have for dinner, which route is best to drive ... and asking the real estate salesperson if the drywall in the home is 1/4" thick or 3/8" thick.

As a young salesman, the engineering personality used to intimidate me. I've heard countless sales people say that they hate working with engineers. Not me! After I did a fairly extensive study on personality types, the engineer type became my favorite person to work with because I came to realize that the "problem" laid at the feet of the engineer and not with me. After exasperating fifteen other sales people in the quest for the "perfect" home and driving them mad, I knew how to make them feel very comfortable. Just let them have plenty of time to make their decisions and not feel threatened or pressured in any way. The very worst thing a salesperson can do to blow a sale is to try to pressure the engineer. Right?

Engineers do what makes sense most of the time ... except when they wear plaid shorts with black socks and dress shoes.

Now, again ... please don't take offense at anything I've said here. Each personality type has their own unique major fear. You don't want to know about mine. If you did, I wouldn't tell you anyway.

Vi

 

[Doctor Pot]

Vi -

Interesting perspective. I'll admit that a lot of that describes me pretty well, although I'm a bit more impulsive than the type you describe. And I usually dress pretty inconspicuously, like jeans and a t-shirt when not at work or a polo shirt and khakis at work. I don't shave very often though. But your description is right about putting pressure on me being a bad idea. And I do tend to think through all my long-term decisions.

I don't think I'm too afraid of criticism, I mean, I wouldn't be arguing in a political forum if I was scared someone might criticize me right? In my writing classes, I actively sought constructive criticism and got annoyed when my teachers or classmates wouldn't give me any. I can get defensive, but I don't think that's out of fear. It's more because I don't make decisions lightly, and if I do make a decision, that means I've put a hell of a lot of thought into it. If someone criticizes that decision, I have to defend it, at least to myself, and possibly to them.

For example, if someone () posts an Ann Coulter article, I have to figure out exactly why it's full of shit, and contrast it with my decision to support Barack Obama. But my decisions are always based mostly on logic, which kind of forces me to examine the logic behind any challenges to my decisions. Many people appear to accept ideas based on whether or not they like them, logic be damned. While I'm sure this makes decision-making a lot easier, it tends to drive me nuts. And my overanalyzation grates on some people too, like former girlfriends. Anyway, there's an insight into the psyche of an engineer, for what it's worth.

edit: I was actually going to give you positive rep for that for being interesting, but apparently I gave you rep not long ago... it was probably negative but I can't remember why. Such is life.