Nitrogen boost at end of veg?

NewEnglandFarmer

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I've got a bunch of plants in the ground outdoors (native soil amended per soil test recommendations, including about 1/2 cup bloodmeal for N). Transplanted in early June.

Doing well overall but color a little light and a few lower/interior leaves here and there starting to fade a bit. Based on my notes from last year this particular strain is probably about 2-3 weeks from starting to flower. I think they're just getting into the stretch now.

I'd given them a little N boost in mid-July by topdressing with one handful each of feathermeal and alfalfa meal per plant. But given the color now (and the fact that we had a deluge that dropped 5 inches of rain shortly after the topdress, so maybe a bunch of nutrients got washed down below the root zone), I started to wonder if they needed more.

I figured maybe they could use another boost to get them through the heavy growth period during stretch. So I rather impulsively topdressed each with 1/2C bloodmeal (I've used this amount before elsewhere on plants this size, 5-6 feet tall now, and never saw any issues of burn or toxicity ). Now I'm second-guessing that decision a little bit--don't want too much Nitrogen during flower. Research I've seen suggests the N from the bloodmeal will last 4-6 weeks (my soil is warm, moist, and full of microbial life). You think that could affect flowering negatively? I read different things about how much Nitrogen they use during flower and some people say it will prevent or delay flowering.

What's your experience on this?

If I could rewind I would've done fish hydrolosate instead since it doesn't leave a bunch of slow-release N lingering for weeks. Or maybe my timing is actually perfect, they'll get a nice N boost for stretch and then there will be some N left over for flower but not too much. What do you think?

And yes, there should be plenty of P and K in that soil for flowering (I added some). I'm thinking they'll just get water from here on out--although I add 1/2t of potassium silicate per gallon so they'll get a bit more K that way.

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leather lungs

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I've got a bunch of plants in the ground outdoors (native soil amended per soil test recommendations, including about 1/2 cup bloodmeal for N). Transplanted in early June.

Doing well overall but color a little light and a few lower/interior leaves here and there starting to fade a bit. Based on my notes from last year this particular strain is probably about 2-3 weeks from starting to flower. I think they're just getting into the stretch now.

I'd given them a little N boost in mid-July by topdressing with one handful each of feathermeal and alfalfa meal per plant. But given the color now (and the fact that we had a deluge that dropped 5 inches of rain shortly after the topdress, so maybe a bunch of nutrients got washed down below the root zone), I started to wonder if they needed more.

I figured maybe they could use another boost to get them through the heavy growth period during stretch. So I rather impulsively topdressed each with 1/2C bloodmeal (I've used this amount before elsewhere on plants this size, 5-6 feet tall now, and never saw any issues of burn or toxicity ). Now I'm second-guessing that decision a little bit--don't want too much Nitrogen during flower. Research I've seen suggests the N from the bloodmeal will last 4-6 weeks (my soil is warm, moist, and full of microbial life). You think that could affect flowering negatively? I read different things about how much Nitrogen they use during flower and some people say it will prevent or delay flowering.

What's your experience on this?

If I could rewind I would've done fish hydrolosate instead since it doesn't leave a bunch of slow-release N lingering for weeks. Or maybe my timing is actually perfect, they'll get a nice N boost for stretch and then there will be some N left over for flower but not too much. What do you think?

And yes, there should be plenty of P and K in that soil for flowering (I added some). I'm thinking they'll just get water from here on out--although I add 1/2t of potassium silicate per gallon so they'll get a bit more K that way.

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Nice plants..
 

NewEnglandFarmer

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Cover crops are usually planted about mid flower to use up the extra N in no till indoor gardens.Im sure that same technique could be used outdoor.
Thanks for the idea...never heard of that. It's pretty shaded under the canopy but maybe a shade-tolerant cover crop?
 

youraveragehorticulturist

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Don't sweat it!

Plants use plenty of nitrogen in flower. Blood meal is pretty water soluble and should come and go pretty fast. The amino acids that make up the Nitrogen in the blood meal will help your plants take up other micronutrients.

I read somewhere that a plants nitrogen needs top out during the second week of flower, as they stretch. So your timing was perfect! Your plants look good!
 
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