Flowering but maybe some deficiency

GreatWhiteNorthGrows

GreatWhiteNorthGrows

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There are a lot of ways to raise temperature so not sure why you can't... also saying they are growing fine when majority of the posts here are saying to raise Temps seems like you just don't like the advice being received...
 
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blindmannzz

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I appreciate the answers but can someone tell me if it is a mag deficiency? And does it have to be treated or it will effect the quality or can I just ignore it?
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

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You said your using it sparingly?

She wants more P and K!! Those yellow edges will soon go brown and looked burnt (k def)

That dark dead tissue on the non purple picture is P def.


Increase PK if possible without too much N. She looks good for N

Good luck
 
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ComfortCreator

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blindmannzz said:
I appreciate the answers but can someone tell me if it is a mag deficiency? And does it have to be treated or it will effect the quality or can I just ignore it?
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It is not as simple in your case to just say it needs more or less of something.

There is a very important dynamic between the amount of light and the temperature. They work together and how quickly nutrients are absorbed is very dependent upon temperature. I know your 2 fixtures arent really pumping out 2400 watts or the plants would be dead.

Below a certain temperature, some nutrients are less utilized, and above a certain temperature the same is true. As mentioned above if P is an issue, say too much, that is a temperature issue in your case.

So that is why it can be difficult to just look at your situation and say --

Magnesium for example becomes less and less available as temperature rises.

I know you are hesitant to discuss the power trip situation but that is a better key to success than looking at the specifics of those leaves.

There are full on electricians here that will solve the breaker issue if you let them.

800 watts of light and fans is enough, we could get you there if interested.

At 75f, you would have a whole different grow. At 80f, you would be blown away by how they grow and utilize the nutrients much better and faster.

They WILL grow fine at your temps, but the issues you worry about are due to temperature issues, not a mix problem (imo).
 
MustGro

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blindmannzz said:
I had read somewhere spraying leaves with water was a better way to water plants
Lights waykme 1200 w full spectrum x2
Soil is a mix of 2 different organic soils mixed with organic potting soil and some organic miracle grow fertilizer. Approximately 3 cubic yards.
This is first time using indoor lights. I have other plants some in containers outside 3 flowering and about 4 ft bushy no issues. and 3 in ground outside. Flowering and 2 of them are over 8 ft. Outside plants have been supplemented twice with tiger bloom. All were started and still in same soil.
I think the inside plant could have magnesium Deficiency
But before I treat would like to confirm. Last week mixed a gallon of water w tiger bloom/big bloom split gallon over 2 days on the 4 indoor plants
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I don’t spray my inside plants with water and I sure wouldn’t do it with bud on like you have. How hard is your water, you know the ppm or EC? Your PH is ok so not locking things up.
My friend uses blurples and his 600 watt draws 60 watts at the plug. I’m going to suggest you try to get access to a device like a kill-a-watt that will measure actual draw at the plug. I‘d be surprised if your LEDs draw more than 120 watts at the wall each though.
The lower light intensity along with the low temps are a pretty hard combination to beat.
You said your outside plants are ok with the same soil, right. They’re getting the best of light outside; what are the temps like?
Not too familiar with the fox farm nutes, but if you want to add a little bit of regular old Epsom salts to your next feed I doubt it‘d hurt but they’ve got some bud on and you don’t want to really dose them with a lot of real high ec/ppm all at once. I use 1 gram a gallon with my nutes in hydro so you could run maybe half that in your next fert just to know they had a dose of it. Me though, I’d look real close at the nute bottles and maybe write it all down on paper so I knew if it was getting much mag from them. But the pics in regular light don’t look too bad man. Those messed up leaves down low? Lot less light down low, might not be a deficiency or excess, could just be light.
 
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blindmannzz

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Nutty sKunK said:
You said your using it sparingly?

She wants more P and K!! Those yellow edges will soon go brown and looked burnt (k def)

That dark dead tissue on the non purple picture is P def.


Increase PK if possible without too much N. She looks good for N

Good luck
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Thank you
 
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blindmannzz

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MustGro said:
I don’t spray my inside plants with water and I sure wouldn’t do it with bud on like you have. How hard is your water, you know the ppm or EC? Your PH is ok so not locking things up.
My friend uses blurples and his 600 watt draws 60 watts at the plug. I’m going to suggest you try to get access to a device like a kill-a-watt that will measure actual draw at the plug. I‘d be surprised if your LEDs draw more than 120 watts at the wall each though.
The lower light intensity along with the low temps are a pretty hard combination to beat.
You said your outside plants are ok with the same soil, right. They’re getting the best of light outside; what are the temps like?
Not too familiar with the fox farm nutes, but if you want to add a little bit of regular old Epsom salts to your next feed I doubt it‘d hurt but they’ve got some bud on and you don’t want to really dose them with a lot of real high ec/ppm all at once. I use 1 gram a gallon with my nutes in hydro so you could run maybe half that in your next fert just to know they had a dose of it. Me though, I’d look real close at the nute bottles and maybe write it all down on paper so I knew if it was getting much mag from them. But the pics in regular light don’t look too bad man. Those messed up leaves down low? Lot less light down low, might not be a deficiency or excess, could just be light.
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Thanks. This my first indoor. I put 3 in ground. All are in flower 2 of them are 8 ft tall and about 3-4 ft diameter. Huge fan leaves. The other is about 4 ft and 4 ft diameter
I also have 3 in larger buckets. I am on east coast so temps have been averaging 83-95 plus lots of humidity.
I sprayed when they were vegging. Saw the spotting and stopped.
I have been using tiger bloom 2-8-4 since they started flowering maybe 3 times
Last time I mixed 1 teaspoon of ff big bloom Into the gallon 0 -.5-.7. Spread out water with nutes a out week. Gallon over 4 plants.
In between just water.

I appreciate you taking the time to explain. Not even sure I will continue indoor. If I can grow enough outdoor to last.
 
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blindmannzz

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Budzbuddha said:
Listen….. I know that’s seems hard to do .

Low temps = slow growth.
Low temps can cause purple .
Low temps affect root mass .
Low temps interfere with plant uptake .


See a pattern ?
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I am okay with the pattern. Not sure I plan to continue indoor. Thanks
 
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blindmannzz

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ComfortCreator said:
It is not as simple in your case to just say it needs more or less of something.

There is a very important dynamic between the amount of light and the temperature. They work together and how quickly nutrients are absorbed is very dependent upon temperature. I know your 2 fixtures arent really pumping out 2400 watts or the plants would be dead.

Below a certain temperature, some nutrients are less utilized, and above a certain temperature the same is true. As mentioned above if P is an issue, say too much, that is a temperature issue in your case.

So that is why it can be difficult to just look at your situation and say --

Magnesium for example becomes less and less available as temperature rises.

I know you are hesitant to discuss the power trip situation but that is a better key to success than looking at the specifics of those leaves.

There are full on electricians here that will solve the breaker issue if you let them.

800 watts of light and fans is enough, we could get you there if interested.

At 75f, you would have a whole different grow. At 80f, you would be blown away by how they grow and utilize the nutrients much better and faster.

They WILL grow fine at your temps, but the issues you worry about are due to temperature issues, not a mix problem (imo).
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This is an experiment. I am on a desktop. I have a 4/4/8 tent that I have not put together. Currently I have no place to put it. So I am not sure if I will continue. If I do I will fix the temp in the room. If I was fully enclosed with lights I am sure I would be a lot warmer.
 
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