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Ilikesnacks

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Popped 6 seeds of Northern Lights 2 from Deep Ellum Seeds and none of them seem to have the same/similar leaf structure as Burnedman’s, which to me is that crazy thin/elongated start to the leaves. Rocket boy posted an old post from Neville saying that nl2 was a kush/kush leaning but those leaves look like freaks/Thai to me. Seems I see this in mmad’s and rocketboy’s plants as well. I guess my initial thought is that Deep Ellum bred away from that expression?, they’re working with f3 stock. I’m 4/6 females but unfortunately the most sativa leaning one is a male. I’ll probably flower all these out. The other strain I popped was The One bx2 because my understanding at the time was that they were both Afghan x Thai crosses and I wanted to see them against each other. Ended up with one fucking beautiful female out of it.
 
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Burnedman

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Ilikesnacks said:
Popped 6 seeds of Northern Lights 2 from Deep Ellum Seeds and none of them seem to have the same/similar leaf structure as Burnedman’s, which to me is that crazy thin/elongated start to the leaves. Rocket boy posted an old post from Neville saying that nl2 was a kush/kush leaning but those leaves look like freaks/Thai to me. Seems I see this in mmad’s and rocketboy’s plants as well. I guess my initial thought is that Deep Ellum bred away from that expression?, they’re working with f3 stock. I’m 4/6 females but unfortunately the most sativa leaning one is a male. I’ll probably flower all these out. The other strain I popped was The One bx2 because my understanding at the time was that they were both Afghan x Thai crosses and I wanted to see them against each other. Ended up with one fucking beautiful female out of it.
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The thin leaves you note are actually a Skunk trait, and it's starting to look like any "R2" from 2001/02 onward was R2xSkunk. I noticed this myself back in 2009 but talking to "D" about this this year has essentially confirmed it. There seem to be at least 6 genotypes in circulation in NB all under the name R2. Between me and 2 friends this year we have 5 obviously different "R2"growing out in a showdown. The branch morphology and Leaf geometry varies dramatically among them, so does triggering time outside and finishing time. Even the smell varies from lemon to skunk to pine to garlic.
 
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These are my 2 oldest "R2".
The 2001 commercial black market clone from 2001/02 with the thin leaves. (it's the 7ft tall 15ft diameter plant)
And the other, comes from the same source, but was never handed out. It's age isn't certain but it's at least 25 years old and absolutely predates the 2002 skunk cross. We are starting to think it's the actual R2 which was a legit 1990's NL2. (it's only a smaller plant because we didn't happen onto this one until mid july)
 

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Burnedman said:
The thin leaves you note are actually a Skunk trait, and it's starting to look like any "R2" from 2001/02 onward was R2xSkunk. I noticed this myself back in 2009 but talking to "D" about this this year has essentially confirmed it. There seem to be at least 6 genotypes in circulation in NB all under the name R2. Between me and 2 friends this year we have 5 obviously different "R2"growing out in a showdown. The branch morphology and Leaf geometry varies dramatically among them, so does triggering time outside and finishing time. Even the smell varies from lemon to skunk to pine to garlic.
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The problem is that people call every cross with R2, R2. That goes for S1’s and company’s doing a few backcrosses with R2 and calling the seed line R2 rather the R2 bx 3 or 4
The cut I ran smelled kinda skunky start of flower but turned to a strong citrus fuel as it ripened. Lol The smell was unreal. I ran it outdoors then indoors around 2006. Had lots of people redlight smoking it. It was being run outdoors in huge numbers where I got it. Quite a rush to smoke and I could still feel it for 3-4 hours.
If what I had wasn’t the real deal then I wouldn’t want anything stronger.
 
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Is there a difference in bud structure between the two cuts you have?
What’s the stem rub smell like in veg?
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I haven't finished the "CV21" before, but it has almost NO stretch when flower sets in, triggered on aug 9th. smaller chunks of denser buds. Stem smell in veg smells like toothpaste, like minty...like colgate!
The "relic" has the R2 look to the buds but they're like less leafy inside the bud. triggered on aug 1st or 2nd. woodier more brittle stems that smell like pine in veg.
 
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R2 is a NB strain that has been around for at least 25+ years. R2 no longer exists. It has been crossed breed so much that its now showing Sativa traits. Its originally a cross of an true NL#2 and an old strain called Freddy Beach out of Fredericton. Way before any 2001/ 2002 skunk cross. Around Moncton it is considered basically shitty biker weed. You can find it any dispensary in town. Just go in and ask for the most harsh smoke at the cheapest price and chances are it's "R2"
 
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Ilikesnacks

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I’m finding the nl2 very stretchy. The 4 females I have are about twice the height of the other strain I’ve got vegging but same node count.
 
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DrPuffsAlot said:
R2 is a NB strain that has been around for at least 25+ years. R2 no longer exists. It has been crossed breed so much that its now showing Sativa traits. Its originally a cross of an true NL#2 and an old strain called Freddy Beach out of Fredericton. Way before any 2001/ 2002 skunk cross. Around Moncton it is considered basically shitty biker weed. You can find it any dispensary in town. Just go in and ask for the most harsh smoke at the cheapest price and chances are it's "R2"
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Ya, tell the acadians out here R2 is from Fredericton and see what they say to ya. If your R2 is harsh cabbage weed it's on the grower cuzzzz mine is hell fire. R2 is still here in the french parts but the people who have it don't give it to just anyone. My R2 cut from cormier village rd is confirmed from at least 96 from the grower who gave it to us and he would have gotten it from the french by's up the coast for sure, I know that an actual fact because i know people who were actually there then. You are right R2 is NL2 from the 90's. All commercial R2 has always been R2NL2xSkunk and was just called R2. But THIS comment from yourself Drpuffsalot this is literally the first time in 25 years of growing R2 in french NB/Tantramar marsh that i have heard the word "fredericton" associated with an origin story for R2. Same with the "Ron" story. I only every heard it from 2 people and neither person would i consider an authority on the strain. I am presently feminizing my clone to a seed line so i can share it with people who don't really know the strain well enough to identify it in a line up of its hybrids.
 
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Burnedman said:
Ya, tell the acadians out here R2 is from Fredericton and see what they say to ya. If your R2 is harsh cabbage weed it's on the grower cuzzzz mine is hell fire. R2 is still here in the french parts but the people who have it don't give it to just anyone. My R2 cut from cormier village rd is confirmed from at least 96 from the grower who gave it to us and he would have gotten it from the french by's up the coast for sure, I know that an actual fact because i know people who were actually there then. You are right R2 is NL2 from the 90's. All commercial R2 has always been R2NL2xSkunk and was just called R2. But THIS comment from yourself Drpuffsalot this is literally the first time in 25 years of growing R2 in french NB/Tantramar marsh that i have heard the word "fredericton" associated with an origin story for R2. Same with the "Ron" story. I only every heard it from 2 people and neither person would i consider an authority on the strain. I am presently feminizing my clone to a seed line so i can share it with people who don't really know the strain well enough to identify it in a line up of its hybrids.
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Was the original R2 a smaller plant? I was only getting about 6 bags per plant outdoors. I got mine from the Tidnish area Years ago but let it go because I wasn’t my favourite smoke.
 
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Kp sunshine said:
Was the original R2 a smaller plant? I was only getting about 6 bags per plant outdoors. I got mine from the Tidnish area Years ago but let it go because I wasn’t my favourite smoke.
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Yes it's considerably smaller than its Skunk hybrids at finish because of it's lack of stretch. Truth be told, some people, even seasoned users just don't enjoy R2. It's pretty brutal on the air bags.
 
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Very interesting stuff, nice photos and info everyone, thank you. I found this thread looking for information on a pack of seeds recently donated... D's R2 NL2 OP from AltruistSeeds, I was told they are from the same batch Swami used, but I'm waiting to hear back for details.
 
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