there's a lady who is so bushed in she has her grow boxes on the swale and you know people don't even steal those veggies..but they'll take your FedEx box. i love passing buy her home because it's like a forest; i can see those little white light i like so much but not much else back there. we had a conversation about it and she said people just love walking past her house for that reason..you feel like your in heaven's fairy forest.
Maine Decides: Right To Food
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I understand that all kind is seeds are owned by corporations and it’s a heartache for farmers who want to make their own corn seeds etc, but not sure how prevalent it is with stock of stuff that your average home gardening would use. Besides if they buy the seeds they are cleared. I doubt this is even an issue. Maine needs to start thinking these things through but unfortunately we are in the age of “referendums” and one thing is abundantly clear, don’t ask the uneducated masses what they think is a good idea.
I had some asshole with a rooster behind me in Tokyo. I dreamed about poisoning it so many times.This is the kind of density where I live. Not good for a bunch of chickens and definitely not for pigs and cows.
welllll weren't you the one with the weasel problem or was that @Sir Napsalot?
that's just part of the local flavor and custom..
Roger A. Shrubber
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a lot of people just like doing it. a lot of people are concerned about the use of pesticides, and gmo seeds. a lot of people are concerned about the way animals are treated, and the fact they're pumped full of antibiotics and steroids their whole lives....and some are just cheap bastards that would prefer to pay for their food with sweat than with money...but i bet most of them have kids...the universal remote
those at the top are out of touch; they think they know how much food costs..if they really cared about us why did they not extend UI for Delta and Delta Plus? Last benefit was 9/4, now how do i pay you Mr. Landlord? @DaFreak.
President George HW didn't know how to scan a grocery item..how can you be of the people when you know nothing of their struggles.
President George HW didn't know how to scan a grocery item..how can you be of the people when you know nothing of their struggles.
xtsho
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There is a big difference in growing you're on produce and raising livestock in the city. I garden because I can't get the same quality at the grocery store and the farmers markets prices around here are ridiculous. Plus I like going out in my garden to pick a fresh tomato for a BLT.
Bread is not a pain in the ass it's an art. I make my own sourdough bread using starter I started myself. I buy 25 lb bags of flour for around $10, It takes under an hour to bake a loaf of bread but closer to 18 for it to be ready to bake. In the end I pull a fresh baked loaf of sourdough out of the oven that is better than anything you can get at the grocery store. If I were to go to a specialty bakery they'd charge $7 for a loaf of good sourdough bread.
The reason we hassle with it is because of quality. Plus my garden is 100% pesticide and commercial fertilizer free. It's a 100% organic garden.
This is why I do it.
a lot of people like keeping a cow?
there's Whole Food, Sprouts, Alfalfa's where even the most obnoxious Mother Earth can find her pesticideless and non-gmo items..would you believe most grocers carry that now too to compete with specialty stores.so then what happens when this is voted down? this was brought by constituents. i'm still thinking there's a message here and this is how it starts.
they will say: 'how will we feed ourselves?'
this inmho is the prequel to Guaranteed Income..that's why this article caught my eye.
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Hopefully wherever you live has good rent relief programs, still a lot of money unused.
Roger A. Shrubber
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you had me till i saw the fucking beets...There is a big difference in growing you're on produce and raising livestock in the city. I garden because I can't get the same quality at the grocery store and the farmers markets prices around here are ridiculous. Plus I like going out in my garden to pick a fresh tomato for a BLT.
Bread is not a pain in the ass it's an art. I make my own sourdough bread using starter I started myself. I buy 25 lb bags of flour for around $10, It takes under an hour to bake a loaf of bread but closer to 18 for it to be ready to bake. In the end I pull a fresh baked loaf of sourdough out of the oven that is better than anything you can get at the grocery store. If I were to go to a specialty bakery they'd charge $7 for a loaf of good sourdough bread.
The reason we hassle with it is because of quality. Plus my garden is 100% pesticide and commercial fertilizer free. It's a 100% organic garden.
This is why I do it.
rkymtnman
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so each person in Portland ME needs this much land just to grow veggies to feed a family of 4? flawed premise i think.
They estimate that to feed a family of four strictly on a home-grown diet of vegetables, you'd need 1.76 acres of land (which would yield 2,300 calories per person per day)
so we're going back to an agrarian society now??? lol. that ship has sailed.
They estimate that to feed a family of four strictly on a home-grown diet of vegetables, you'd need 1.76 acres of land (which would yield 2,300 calories per person per day)
so we're going back to an agrarian society now??? lol. that ship has sailed.
Roger A. Shrubber
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do you believe that if you tested all that "pesticide free" food, that it would all really be pesticide free?...i don'ta lot of people like keeping a cow?
so then what happens when this is voted down? this was brought by constituents. i'm still thinking there's a message here and this is how it starts.
they will say: 'how will we feed ourselves?'
rkymtnman
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hell, the water they use is probably so full of crap it's probably just as bad as the nutes and pesticides
Roger A. Shrubber
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like that's going to happen in our lifetimes..."how will we feed ourselves?"....you live in an urban area, you CAN'T feed yourself by farming in an urban area, and i do not see this making any kind of leap to guaranteed income...we may be at the beginning of the end for capitalism, but capitalism is huge, and even if it starts to fall today, it will take years for the head to bounce off the ground...and that falling giant will crush a big part of the world on the way down...so, yeah, not in our lifetimes, or the lifetimes of anyone alive right now
xtsho
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Finding a New Home for a Chicken - CRR
FINDING A NEW HOME FOR A CHICKEN The recent backyard chicken fad has overwhelmed animal rescue organizations with inquiries from people wanting to find homes for chickens who are no longer wanted or have been abandoned. Like all other animals...
Roger A. Shrubber
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a typical city block is about 2.25 acres...that means if you used the whole block for food production, you could feed maybe 6 people....not even close to practical...
rkymtnman
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so i guess more importantly we need to provide for our own drinking water source first though? humans need water b4 food.
smokinrav
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Grocery stores? You ever looked, really looked at say, a tomato display? A sea of perfect, uniformly shaped and colored balls of genetic engineering, kept bug free with fucking Roundup. Same with virtually every other species of vegetable in the store.
Combine that with with the fact that the taste of what you've grown is so much better. Homemade relish from pickles you just picked off the vine is divine. Potatoes that sit just fine for most of the winter with no decay. We canned beets, sauces, soups, applesauce, apple butter, relish, cucumbers, and dozens of herbs and spices for my pantry.
All of this was done as a family activity. With my kids learning about gardening from age 3.
If you've never had homemade bread, well, the jokes on you.
Not what natural growth looks like
