Bucsfan80
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No light now or ever can do what the sun does. All we can do is give them what we can.
Has anyone tried Walmart 2' hyper tough led grow light or ocean state job lot 4" grow lights
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Jimmy Slade
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What a little bitch.
Vtlegalindoor
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Don't be so hard on yourself
Jimmy Slade
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You're too stupid to understand how forum quotes work as well?
Shocker!!
Your lights are absolute shit. But you don't want to hear that.
BTW That mylar job of yours is next level. Beautifully done.
Vtlegalindoor
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Thank you
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Watts are a lie thanks everyone
LeastExpectedGrower
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That's a total misrepresentation of that article, disingenuous at best. It comes down to 'watts are an over simplification'. Which if you've paid any attention to any of the substantive light discussion (hint, there's a sub forum for it), you'd know. In fact, many of the points made in that article bolster what most of us have been saying here.
For those playing along at home and want to see the actual page, it's here. Funny that the OP didn't bother to include it.
www.gardenmyths.com
Legit lighting companies give you all the info about the lamp and their efficiency and spectrum.
For example these are what I use:
Feel free to post up the data on the lights you're using. Watts are not a lie, they're a single information point. And they 'count' along with other information.
For those playing along at home and want to see the actual page, it's here. Funny that the OP didn't bother to include it.
LED Grow Lights - The Myth About Watts
LED grow lights for growing plants, especially for starting seedlings, is energy efficient, but which one should you buy? Should you buy based on watts? Which LED wavelengths work best for plants? Understand these myths before buying a new LED grow light.
www.gardenmyths.com
Legit lighting companies give you all the info about the lamp and their efficiency and spectrum.
For example these are what I use:
Feel free to post up the data on the lights you're using. Watts are not a lie, they're a single information point. And they 'count' along with other information.
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Vtlegalindoor
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1 watt led =80% light 20% heat 5watt led =50% light and 50%% heat there is no industry standard for labeling information and light manufacturers lie to sell lights I'm just going with the facts so 50 1 watt leds will produce much more light than 10 5 watt leds that's math and you can't argue with that add it up conclusion watts are misleading at best and light manufacturers are relying on that to sell you their latest product regardless of your actual needsThat's a total misrepresentation of that article, disingenuous at best. It comes down to 'watts are an over simplification'. Which if you've paid any attention to any of the substantive light discussion (hint, there's a sub forum for it), you'd know. In fact, many of the points made in that article bolster what most of us have been saying here.
For those playing along at home and want to see the actual page, it's here. Funny that the OP didn't bother to include it.
LED Grow Lights - The Myth About Watts
LED grow lights for growing plants, especially for starting seedlings, is energy efficient, but which one should you buy? Should you buy based on watts? Which LED wavelengths work best for plants? Understand these myths before buying a new LED grow light.
Legit lighting companies give you all the info about the lamp and their efficiency and spectrum.
For example these are what I use:
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Feel free to post up the data on the lights you're using. Watts are not a lie, they're a single information point. And they 'count' along with other information.
LeastExpectedGrower
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You're speaking like there's literally 3 types of LEDs produced across the industry, a 1w, a 3w and a 5w. That's not reality.
Vtlegalindoor
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I've been objective and fact checked everything i didn't start this thread because i thought i had good lights and discovered some super lightning secret i asked if anyone had experience with a very specific light what I received was stubborn ignorant rhetoric and very little helpful feedback thank you. With the 22 hours I've spent researching cannabis specific lightning i feel that I have enough knowledge to illuminate a space adequately i wonder about others who are less objective but I can ponder that without attacking anyone
Vtlegalindoor
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I understand Noone wants to be wrong I'm just presenting some factual information if you're goal is light and not heat you may want to rethink your strategy more watts per diode = exponentially more heat there is no escaping the facts
Jimmy Slade
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LED Grow Lights - The Myth About Watts
LED grow lights for growing plants, especially for starting seedlings, is energy efficient, but which one should you buy? Should you buy based on watts? Which LED wavelengths work best for plants? Understand these myths before buying a new LED grow light.
www.gardenmyths.com
That is maybe one of the dumbest "articles" I've ever read. Your lights are still garbage. Anybody that has actually used them is probably too embarrassed to respond to this thread.
Jimmy Slade
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You should post this in the LED subsection. Everybody over there could use a good laugh.
Jimmy Slade
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facepalm
Vtlegalindoor
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Not it's actually one of the most objective and I'm sorry you didn't like it best of luck with the stubbornness.light manufacturers have your loyalty and that's working for you I'm confident that I have enough OBJECTIVE information to draw my own conclusions I'm gonna keep flowering 4 plants in my basement for myself and my wife and improve and refine my operation over time. Meanwhile I'll remain objective and fact check everything. I'm certain that objectivity is key.LED Grow Lights - The Myth About Watts
LED grow lights for growing plants, especially for starting seedlings, is energy efficient, but which one should you buy? Should you buy based on watts? Which LED wavelengths work best for plants? Understand these myths before buying a new LED grow light.
That is maybe one of the dumbest "articles" I've ever read. Your lights are still garbage. Anybody that has actually used them is probably too embarrassed to respond to this thread.
Jimmy Slade
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I have lights from several different companies(HLG, Meiju, Kingbrite, Timber, Optic). I've also built several different cob bars.
The fact that you think you know anything about LEDs is adorable. Again, go post this info in the LED subsection - it's in the Indoor Growing section. I'll make the popcorn.
Goodshit97
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Does this make you feel less stupid about buying shit lights? So your 12 watt leds have more power than my 300watt light? Dumb as fuck you are.
Vtlegalindoor
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Thanks again you're the best why are you so offended by this? I understand you're a bully and and want people to cower and bow to you but you got the wrong guy. I'm that guy! That's going to follow you to your house after you cut me off in the roundabout cause I got nothing better to do than to bring to your attention that you aren't special and that the law applies to you as well I got the wit and intelligence to support any argument I make and telling me that you got a bunch of expensive lights just tells me you have more money than brains. And since I don't engage in battle with someone who's unarmed our battle of wits is over. Byeeee.
Here's a tip do you see the enormous cooling apparatus on that how many of your watts are being converted to heat and not light hmmmmm. Wasteful and inefficient. Sure watts tell you how much power you are pulling from the wall but how much of that energy is converted to light is determined by other factors including diode efficiency fact. Check it. Again being stubborn is no advantage and you have proven that your knowledge is lackingThat's a total misrepresentation of that article, disingenuous at best. It comes down to 'watts are an over simplification'. Which if you've paid any attention to any of the substantive light discussion (hint, there's a sub forum for it), you'd know. In fact, many of the points made in that article bolster what most of us have been saying here.
For those playing along at home and want to see the actual page, it's here. Funny that the OP didn't bother to include it.
LED Grow Lights - The Myth About Watts
LED grow lights for growing plants, especially for starting seedlings, is energy efficient, but which one should you buy? Should you buy based on watts? Which LED wavelengths work best for plants? Understand these myths before buying a new LED grow light.
Legit lighting companies give you all the info about the lamp and their efficiency and spectrum.
For example these are what I use:
View attachment 5017595
View attachment 5017596
View attachment 5017598
View attachment 5017599
Feel free to post up the data on the lights you're using. Watts are not a lie, they're a single information point. And they 'count' along with other information.