Facebook & Social Media

schuylaar

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Is this the thread where someone said Hitler was a lefty? Last night when I was doing my midnight ramble, the name of that book came to me. Anyway anyone wanting a satirical look inside Nazi Germany should read Party Games by Hans Hellmut Kirst. I read another of his that was real good too, but I can't think of the name of that one. @Hiddengems

tagged him for you and yes, it was this thread.
 

Hiddengems

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Interesting read. But they are being much too lenient. Corporations are now legal persons. That is a double-edged sword.
Facebook needs to be sat down in criminal court and tried as a person.
Ah, we agree.

A "person" is subject to criminal law, and it's punishments. How can a corporation go to prison?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Ah, we agree.

A "person" is subject to criminal law, and it's punishments. How can a corporation go to prison?
it's not a good law...it's really to protect share holders from being liable if the company is sued...the idea that facebook is a "person" is kind of silly. it's all just legal mumbo jumbo designed to keep people who should be held accountable from being sued, unless you want to bring multiple suits at the same time. that's what LLC means, limited liability corporation...the shareholders can't be held responsible for the actions of the company...only the active officers of that corporation..
 

CatHedral

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Ah, we agree.
A "person" is subject to criminal law, and it's punishments. How can a corporation go to prison?
A different penal methodneeds to be applied to what amounts to a collective person. The prosecution must be individualized to an extent and manner that I’ll leave to the pros.

The senior executives (the watershed is whether or not the individual has stock options as part of the compensation package) are to be imprisoned for violating RICO and, if applicable, sedition. These folks won’t come out of max/security for decades if at all.

The remaining employees are to be dismissed without criminal charges, unless an extraordinary condition is discovered.

The assets of the corporation are liquidated, and the proceeds go toward the public coffers.

Should the corporation provide a vital service, like the criminal electric utility in Texas, the state takes the decapitated enterprise over while publicly seeking new private leadership in the minimum practical time.
 

Hiddengems

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A different penal methodneeds to be applied to what amounts to a collective person. The prosecution must be individualized to an extent and manner that I’ll leave to the pros.

The senior executives (the watershed is whether or not the individual has stock options as part of the compensation package) are to be imprisoned for violating RICO and, if applicable, sedition. These folks won’t come out of max/security for decades if at all.

The remaining employees are to be dismissed without criminal charges, unless an extraordinary condition is discovered.

The assets of the corporation are liquidated, and the proceeds go toward the public coffers.

Should the corporation provide a vital service, like the criminal electric utility in Texas, the state takes the decapitated enterprise over while publicly seeking new private leadership in the minimum practical time.
You'd be surprised what my strong individualist world view produces in these situations.
I'm actually for regulation limiting the size of corporations. No corporation should have power rivaling or surpassing actual codified law.

I view qualified immunity in a similar fashion. It puts people above the law.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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A different penal methodneeds to be applied to what amounts to a collective person. The prosecution must be individualized to an extent and manner that I’ll leave to the pros.

The senior executives (the watershed is whether or not the individual has stock options as part of the compensation package) are to be imprisoned for violating RICO and, if applicable, sedition. These folks won’t come out of max/security for decades if at all.

The remaining employees are to be dismissed without criminal charges, unless an extraordinary condition is discovered.

The assets of the corporation are liquidated, and the proceeds go toward the public coffers.

Should the corporation provide a vital service, like the criminal electric utility in Texas, the state takes the decapitated enterprise over while publicly seeking new private leadership in the minimum practical time.
not a bad idea, but that would never happen, at least not in our lifetimes. corporate lawyers would challenege EVERY word of that, and trumps packed supreme court would be sympathetic, after all, its a bought and paid for scotus...who do you think bought them? wasn't poor people pooling their money...
and what about all the innocent people who invested in the company with no idea of the true hidden inner workings? they just write off the loss? you would at least have to cash them out at the current market rate for the stock they own. and you're going to kick all the employees out? after many of them were the whistle blowers to begin with, and most of the rest are just employs with no idea what the officers of the company they work for are up to? again, you'd have to offer them some kind of severance to live on till they can get new jobs...if they can get new jobs...
and you trust a state like Texas to find new private leadership for anything? Ted Cruz would make sure one of his buddies got that job, with a healthy kick back
 

CatHedral

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You'd be surprised what my strong individualist world view produces in these situations.
I'm actually for regulation limiting the size of corporations. No corporation should have power rivaling or surpassing actual codified law.

I view qualified immunity in a similar fashion. It puts people above the law.
I worry that “strong individualist” in this instance means libertarian, which is a flawed ideology. Technology has taken us waaay past where “small government” is practicable.

I am pleased by one thing. A strong individualist will certainly not align with the MAGA movement. No individualism permitted there at all. I haven’t seen such rabid collectivism since Stalin.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Investor calls for criminal charges and prison for Facebook execs as tech world enters open revolt against social media
Longtime Facebook investor Roger McNamee called for criminal probes into the company at Web Summit.

His call, echoed by others, shows the tech world is in open revolt against its leading platforms.

Nick Clegg, vice‑president for global affairs at Meta, defended Facebook at the conference.

When longtime Facebook investor Roger McNamee took the stage and called for six different criminal investigations into Facebook, and prison sentences for any executive found responsible, it became obvious that this year's Web Summit would be different from previous iterations of the annual Lisbon-based tech conference.

Normally, Web Summit is a largely apolitical gathering of tech startup founders, software nerds, hackers, and the venture capitalists who want to give them money.

The conference is huge - 80,000 people in some years - and it sprawls across four days on the shoreline of the Portuguese capital. Usually, the chatter is of initial public offerings, "scaling," valuations, and "exits".

Not this time. The tech world is now in open revolt against its own big platforms. This year, Facebook is public enemy no.1. Social media is now the devil. Much of the chatter among attendees is about how to kill social media, regulate Google, or detour around them both.

The conference was officially opened by Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen, who told the 20,000-capacity audience at the centre stage that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg should step down.

"They were putting lives in jeopardy … Facebook is currently prioritising content in the news feed that has a side effect of prioritising and amplifying the most extreme and divisive content," she said.

She cited Ethiopia as an example. It is currently enduring a civil war that may topple its government.

The "most fragile" countries don't have artificially intelligent moderation that can remove toxic content automatically, because Facebook prioritizes English and its American users over everyone else, she said...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It's sad to read bad information about Facebook. I think this is a very good and progressive social network in matters of business promotion.
i think it's a steaming hole full of lies, hate, and racism. it gives kids bad information about self image, and seditious white power psychos a platform to recruit from...any business that "promotes" from it, supports all the bad shit it does...any sane, rational, ethical business should run away from facebook as fast as possible
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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You do realize that this forum is social media right?
yeah, but riu is not an all pervasive platform like google/facebook...they have just a few mods and anyone that comes around here trying to spread mis/disinformation usually gets shot down fairly quickly. i won't say it's entirely immune to any outside influence, but it seems like a pretty safe space to me
 

hanimmal

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yeah, but riu is not an all pervasive platform like google/facebook...they have just a few mods and anyone that comes around here trying to spread mis/disinformation usually gets shot down fairly quickly. i won't say it's entirely immune to any outside influence, but it seems like a pretty safe space to me
That works well as long as your devices at home are not just uploading all of your internet content to some third party for automatic analyzation of all of your data to keep up their ability to attack you whenever and wherever you go online with constant spam that 'seems' organic.
 

schuylaar

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It's sad to read bad information about Facebook. I think this is a very good and progressive social network in matters of business promotion.
i'm still trying figure out if our last Anti-Christ is Mark Zuckerburg or Donald Trump..it's that close when it comes to crimes against humanity
 
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