Drying in a fridge
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magnetik
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fwiw I watched a recent future cannabis project episode where one of the guests had a Cannatrol fridge. (which does seems to be a similar setup) To keep moisture up in their setup they used a moistened sponge in a small tray which seems simple enough. This goes back to when I mentioned earlier about the spikes.. with the dehu it shortened the spikes (which is better?, I have not determined yet) I did recently pull the dehu and for the sake of data. This is what it looks like set to 55F and no dehu. average 57.3F/65H. I'll try with a sponge next to see what gives. Albeit data will be completely different with a cooler full of flower. Mine is a compressor version fwiw.
Blue brother
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yeah I've seen it, I think a lot of wine coolers come standard with the sponge. for me though its pointless, the bud has enough moisture when freshly chopped. I'm not wanting to add moisture just slow down the removal of it. however in your situation I can see the upside of using the sponge when the air in ur home might be to dry, so when u open the unit u let all that dry air in and fuck wit yo shit
that data looks pretty good, not at all what I was expecting to see if there was product inside. just to clarify is that with some bits inside like in ur previous pic or is that the unit completely empty?
may I also ask about the lighting setup in ur profile pic? what are they
magnetik
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Yeah I haven't seen the need for humidifying. Adding the sponge will prob spike humidity past 70RH w/out even adding flower in my setup.
DrOgkush
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Your temps are 48f? I thought this experiment from the op is drying in frigid temps? 34-42f.
I thought the whole idea was to use a refrigerator to dry your bud? A lot of left turns were made since the very first post.
Also I don’t see this as an experiment. But more or less of a perfect box for drying bud lol. You really had me mis lead. Sorry for all the ass talk about the fridge. My dumbass thought you were actually going to use a fridge like the post said in the beginning.
I thought the whole idea was to use a refrigerator to dry your bud? A lot of left turns were made since the very first post.
Also I don’t see this as an experiment. But more or less of a perfect box for drying bud lol. You really had me mis lead. Sorry for all the ass talk about the fridge. My dumbass thought you were actually going to use a fridge like the post said in the beginning.
Blue brother
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magnetik
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Since the stuff is jarred, I didn't really consider it in the humidity. Once I get to the next cycle I'll grab the #'s with some fresh flower instead of with the usual hang first routine. As far as lights in the profile pic tent.. Photontek X600w Pro, 4 x 4ft Agromax 10k+UVA, 1 x 4ft Agromax PureUV UVB, 4 emerson strips, and 1 strip of 730nm. edit: added the red's since the profile pic actually.
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DrOgkush
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My apologies. I do not remember reading double wide wine cooler at all. Lol. I woulda never even attempted to dry in the fridge if I knew you were using a wine cooler. Well. Whoops. My bad
magnetik
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you could still use a fridge with an inkbird to control both the dehu and turn the fridge on/off. I think a fridge would be ideal if you could control humidity/temps since you can hang a whole plant in it and have much more room to work with. Similar to the way people make automated meat curing fridges where you need dialed in temp/humidity or you're getting ecoli. (in their case they add a humidifier instead of a dehu)
Blue brother
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no harm mate, the real experiment here is to see if the colder temperatures slows or stops the loss of certain terpenes. There’s loads of people actually using frost free fridge freezers like u tried, they however bag or jar the weed and burp it. When they burp it they allow moisture out the container out into the fridge before closing it again, the compressor then takes care of the moisture that’s been added to the atmosphere inside the fridge and te container can be burped again.
Blue brother
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I agree I’ve seen a few tutorials where people use modified fridges for brewing beer too
Blue brother
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What kind of results have you observed from the uv stimulation, is that uvb 280nm? I’m tempted to buy the new maxibright uva and uvb led bars, got a few ideas about mixing up my spectrum and uv is deffo something I want in there with my Diablos, I’m also considering using a 600W hps for 3-4 weeks in the middle of flower to grab some Emerson effect and heat the leaves up abit
magnetik
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280nm is technically UVC so I'm assuming if there isn't any bleed over spectrum (or effects from deterioration) it doesn't have it.
As far as observed effects and prob not comparable to LED setups..
with limited data (5 cycles and different cultivars though I am on 3rd cycle on a set of clones)
-Started with UVB. burnt the shit out of everything. put it away after the cycle
-added 4 x 10k+UVA and ran them solo. No burn from seedling/clone to finish. Benefits? still being determined but plants seemed to pray extra hard under UVA and yields didn't seem to be affected. Still grew large buds. Never got pics of the solo UVA grow for some reason.
-Added UVB to UVA and was able to push past point in first grow with UVB only. Did not burn and turned some pretty large frosty buds (esp for soil in 7gals) with same UVB as previous. Also fed a bit harder. adding UVB appeared to cause fade to happen quicker. Not really sure if that's true or not yet.. could've been edge of UV burn too I suppose.
-Lowered lights (along with UV lights) back to burn.. not as bad as earlier UVB only grow but totally recognizable as the same issue.
-currently trying to determine if it's lowered lights or UV or both. I guess UV since I see no bleaching.. just leaves turning. So lessening the cycle this round and only applying UVB in the last week where it's late in enough where it doesn't matter if things burn or questions on affecting yield.
still trying to figuring out ideal UVB at the main light height I want to use. There really isn't any where else to put them so may even just stop using UVB all together if I can't get it completely dialed in.
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Blue brother
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nice work, I know it would never be one of those things where it works flawlessly out the box. definitely something where you need to experiment quite Abit to find the optimum.
I was under the impression that uvb started at280 and that's where the uvr8 photoreceptor is most sensitive, may have this mixed up though, even though its all uvb 280 is a lot more energetic than 315. this is also the reason that to get the same effect you need to run uva all day where as the more energetic uvb need only be run for a couple hours.
mr. childs
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use the 2ft uvb instead of the 4ft
magnetik
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starting off with 2fters would have prob been a better option than using 4ft in the 5x5. This way I could experiment in a different tent, on less plants to get it dialed in. I think the run before lowering lights, gave me confidence that I should able to with a little tweaking to the timing.
magnetik
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this is also my understanding.. "most sensitive @ 280nm" since earth sees very little of it.. and plants don't work in absolutes so still affects receptors just not as optimal as at 280nm. (which is UVC territory)
Oucheeeeee
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I haven't read all 9 pages so have missed the arguments.....but figure it was lots of naysayers? (And possibly correct)
Just to say, I'm giving it a go with half my recently harvested crop. 4 plants, 2 hanging up in tent, other 2 in brown bags in t'fridge.
I've moved the 2 in the veg drawer up to top shelf and have started rotating positions of all bags once per day.
I'll also report back on success or otherwise but excited by extra terpenes as smell is integral to my high
Oucheeeeee
Just to say, I'm giving it a go with half my recently harvested crop. 4 plants, 2 hanging up in tent, other 2 in brown bags in t'fridge.
I've moved the 2 in the veg drawer up to top shelf and have started rotating positions of all bags once per day.
I'll also report back on success or otherwise but excited by extra terpenes as smell is integral to my high
Oucheeeeee
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Oucheeeeee
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Just to add, I'm doing nowt special. It's a bog standard fridge with a few bits/pieces for me (no stinking fruit or veg anywhere in house let alone fridge).
I'm gonna do it like curing. Take all out of fridge once per day, open bags for 5 mins, re-peg, stick back in fridge.
If it works...Great. if it doesn't, I'll just be vaping bad weed for a few months. Don't nobody else get any of it (and will have other 2 plants dried/cured as normal).
But hope it does work as it's less labour intensive. If there was an award for laziness, I'd send someone to pick it up for me.
Will report back in new year as harvested on Fri/Sat 10/11th Dec.
I'm gonna do it like curing. Take all out of fridge once per day, open bags for 5 mins, re-peg, stick back in fridge.
If it works...Great. if it doesn't, I'll just be vaping bad weed for a few months. Don't nobody else get any of it (and will have other 2 plants dried/cured as normal).
But hope it does work as it's less labour intensive. If there was an award for laziness, I'd send someone to pick it up for me.
Will report back in new year as harvested on Fri/Sat 10/11th Dec.