Gnats

OldMedUser

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Just so long as no salted peters ground to dust in charcoal prevail over your knowledge. Laugh as I believe you are.
I have a big bag of saltpeter, cans of charcoal and lots of flowers of sulphur. Plenty of potassium permanganate for adding that extra punch and a little colour to the smoke too.

Better living through chemistry! :D

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OldMedUser

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@OldMedUser Since that stuff I got works so well, why don't you give it a try? Im not kidding, one application of semi-flushing the plants while feeding, they are all dead. I have not found one single larvae alive in the run off water. Just groups of dead bodies.
I wouldn't mind but if it's just BTi in that then my Gnatrol dose should have at least knocked them back but had zero impact. When I had actual gnats one dose wiped them right out and haven't seen gnats since and that was two years ago. I've already dosed with the powder chem stuff so will see how things go with that.

I'll have to see if I can get that on AMZ . Ca. Lot of stuff I can get on the . com version I can't get on the Canadian one. Like silver nitrate and sodium thiosulphate for making STS. Found a chem supply in Ontario for the thio but ended up making my own silver nitrate with a .9999 silver coin and some conc. nitric acid I just happened to have laying around. Got 12g of the AgNO3 from an 8g coin and can make more.

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MICHI-CAN

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I wouldn't mind but if it's just BTi in that then my Gnatrol dose should have at least knocked them back but had zero impact. When I had actual gnats one dose wiped them right out and haven't seen gnats since and that was two years ago. I've already dosed with the powder chem stuff so will see how things go with that.

I'll have to see if I can get that on AMZ . Ca. Lot of stuff I can get on the . com version I can't get on the Canadian one. Like silver nitrate and sodium thiosulphate for making STS. Found a chem supply in Ontario for the thio but ended up making my own silver nitrate with a .9999 silver coin and some conc. nitric acid I just happened to have laying around. Got 12g of the AgNO3 from an 8g coin and can make more.

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"Citronox" lol but before Reagan and corporate speech. Look at the representatives and funding of chemicals before you believe the hype on your shelf.
 

OldMedUser

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I did. Legislated and regulated out of reach by Bayer, Monsanto and a bunch more through corporate "money" speech. Naturaal, safe and end of our herbicides and fungicides.
I shall have to look into this. If those guys are mixed up in it then you just know there's a whole lot of fine print the public hasn't seen yet but someone out there has the truth.

Now that Bayer and Monsatan have joined forces along with spin-off companies Scotts, Hawthorne, Roots, GH, Botanicare, Gavita et al the future of non-GMO pot is not looking good. Look what they've done with the crops all GMO now. Everything gets sprayed with RoundUp whether GMO or not.

They are planning to dominate the pot industry from grow gear to proprietary genetically modified seeds and everything connected with pot.

F'n hate corporations like these.

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OldMedUser

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Success! Dusted a bit more of that gnat killer powder on the tops of all the pots and sat them on a screen to first water in enough to saturate the pots and wash the poison in then gave them all another 500ml with a tsp of seaweed ferts. Lots of them squirming around on top of the water last night but all dead today. Dug around in the pots and can't find a single living springtail and the plants all look happier than I've seen them for weeks. 2 or 3 days ago I'd see lots everywhere.

Few days to get healthier and I can get some cuttings and forge ahead with my breeding plans.

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DoubleAtotheRON

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@OldMedUser .... Let's look at some bugs. These to me, look like adult FG's... and I've seen them for several grows. I've never understood why some have a pointed tail, and others have "dual exhaust" tails. What say you?PICA0037.jpgPICA0039.jpg
 

OldMedUser

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@OldMedUser .... Let's look at some bugs. These to me, look like adult FG's... and I've seen them for several grows. I've never understood why some have a pointed tail, and others have "dual exhaust" tails. What say you?View attachment 5055839View attachment 5055840
Could be one's a boy and the other a girl? That's the only thing I can think of.

I used to be into entomology 30 years back when I was tying trout flies and trying to match the hatch but didn't fish any fungus gnat imitations. ;) Now I go into the chicken coop and grab a few feathers to tie onto #2 6XL hooks to throw at the pike in our area. Anything works. :D

Did some more digging around and still can't find a living springtail so hopefully that's the last of them.

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DoubleAtotheRON

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Could be one's a boy and the other a girl? That's the only thing I can think of.

I used to be into entomology 30 years back when I was tying trout flies and trying to match the hatch but didn't fish any fungus gnat imitations. ;) Now I go into the chicken coop and grab a few feathers to tie onto #2 6XL hooks to throw at the pike in our area. Anything works. :D

Did some more digging around and still can't find a living springtail so hopefully that's the last of them.

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That was my thought too... male/female.... OR different stage of adult growth?
 

Kushash

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Could be one's a boy and the other a girl? That's the only thing I can think of.

I used to be into entomology 30 years back when I was tying trout flies and trying to match the hatch but didn't fish any fungus gnat imitations. ;) Now I go into the chicken coop and grab a few feathers to tie onto #2 6XL hooks to throw at the pike in our area. Anything works. :D

Did some more digging around and still can't find a living springtail so hopefully that's the last of them.

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OldMedUser

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.... or is that second pic a Winged Root Aphid?
Actually made me have a 2nd look and they are definitely different bugs. Segmented antennae on one and not the other and the head/thorax are also different. The wing shape and pattern are very similar tho and I would expect there to be noticeable differences there too if they are different species.

That's all I got.

That was my thought too... male/female.... OR different stage of adult growth?
Not sure things like sex organs or body shape would change and I don't think the adults change once they emerge.

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DoubleAtotheRON

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Actually made me have a 2nd look and they are definitely different bugs. Segmented antennae on one and not the other and the head/thorax are also different. The wing shape and pattern are very similar tho and I would expect there to be noticeable differences there too if they are different species.

That's all I got.



Not sure things like sex organs or body shape would change and I don't think the adults change once they emerge.

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Right on... thanks for having a look sir!
 

Naddydasty214

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I was able to kill off gnats with quillaja from buildasoil. Just added it to my normal waterings, pretty sure they drowned in the first dose but It seems the plant loves the Q as well
 
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