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[GBAUTO]

That's one of the things I like the most about your thread, having an insight into how much effort it takes to be a commercial level grow.
I have spent some time pheno hunting, and it can be both tedious and rewarding. Guess it's just part of the journey.
Folks like you keep encouraging me to keep growing.

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

That's one of the things I like the most about your thread, having an insight into how much effort it takes to be a commercial level grow.
I have spent some time pheno hunting, and it can be both tedious and rewarding. Guess it's just part of the journey.
Folks like you keep encouraging me to keep growing.

Thank you! I appreciate it!.. and im sure you can appreciate how much effort it takes to pheno hunt.... and time. But yes, I'll be scrapping BitterSweet haze all together. I just don't like the structure or canopy of that strain. I maybe could have cloned 1 pheno out of it, but it just didn't set well with me. Now, that Lemon Cane from Mother 10, I think is a winner. The only one I cloned out of 20 seeds. It is keeping up with the Dosi canopy, and is similar in structure. This will give me an even canopy on the next run, and give me 1 Indica dom, and 1 Sativa dom. Plus, not running 5 strains will save some money at testing. I need to run as lean as I can this year. The market is not that great, however!, we did just see a 1400+ drop in grow ops as of Jan 1st.... so maybe after more knuckleheads drop out, the market will start correcting itself.

Edit: Just in case some of you were wondering, the color coded labels are the different strains.
Green: Dosi Whoa!
Orange: BitterSweet Haze (Ugh)
Yellow: Lemon Cane

 

[Homegrown5257]

Oh for sure!.. this one has been pumping nutes for over 3 years now… I do flush the tank/pump every day with fresh water tho.

That’s prolly a good ideal even though the pump housing is stainless there may be some internal parts that wouldn’t agree with nutes setting around inside all the time. I just found this thread today and I am very much enjoying reading along and watching your top notch grow, it may take me a minute to catch up but I’ll get caught up eventually lol

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

That’s prolly a good ideal even though the pump housing is stainless there may be some internal parts that wouldn’t agree with nutes setting around inside all the time. I just found this thread today and I am very much enjoying reading along and watching your top notch grow, it may take me a minute to catch up but I’ll get caught up eventually lol

Welcome aboard!

 

[2com]

Update: 1/10 Flipped the lights on the 22nd of Dec. Everything is starting to flower out nicely. Temps are..lights on: 80 degrees/60RH and by the end of the light cycle, im at 85 degrees/65RH.

I'm only asking for comparison, but could you tell me what the plant temps are when the room temp/rh is 80*/60rh, and at 85*/65RH please? Or, wherever you are right now in that range? Ie: when the room is 80* and 60%rh, what're the leaf/plant temps? Thanks.

PS: You don't sound like Burt. I expected you to sound like Burt.

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

I'm only asking for comparison, but could you tell me what the plant temps are when the room temp/rh is 80*/60rh, and at 85*/65RH please? Or, wherever you are right now in that range? Ie: when the room is 80* and 60%rh, what're the leaf/plant temps? Thanks.

PS: You don't sound like Burt. I expected you to sound like Burt.

LST of course varies throughout the days light cycle, but that range is 79-83 ish via the IR meter. I don’t check it that often because it doesn’t change that much. A mystery to me, and I’ve asked this before without a solid answer, but most of the time, the lower leafs read higher than the top… IDK.

 

[2com]

LST of course varies throughout the days light cycle, but that range is 79-83 ish via the IR meter. I don’t check it that often because it doesn’t change that much. A mystery to me, and I’ve asked this before without a solid answer, but most of the time, the lower leafs read higher than the top… IDK.

Thanks.
Yea, I'm still really interested in this. I'd *guess* the reason (for the higher temps on the lower leaves) is because the upper leaves are transpiring more - due to the higher rate of photosynthesis (getting more light, doing more 'work'). It almost seems counter intuitive, but they're cooling themselves more than the lower leaves is my somewhat educated/experienced guess. This is probably moreso the case with LEDs, because there's no direct infrared heating coming down from the lights to actively heat the leaves (especially the upper versus the lower ones).

That make sense?

I took an interest in this when I started IR shooting several plants (some not doing so great) and noticed that the plants that weren't doing so great were actually warmer than the ones that were. Again, I thoguht it must be related to the rate of transpiration. The plants that were struggling/recuperating weren't drinking/transpiring as much, so less cooling factor.
Sometimes I feel leaves (upper canopy) with my fingers and the actually feel cool - compared to the rest of the plant (limbs) and other objects at that height. They're 'sweating'/cooling, I think.

Cool.

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

Thanks.
Yea, I'm still really interested in this. I'd *guess* the reason (for the higher temps on the lower leaves) is because the upper leaves are transpiring more - due to the higher rate of photosynthesis (getting more light, doing more 'work'). It almost seems counter intuitive, but they're cooling themselves more than the lower leaves is my somewhat educated/experienced guess. This is probably moreso the case with LEDs, because there's no direct infrared heating coming down from the lights to actively heat the leaves (especially the upper versus the lower ones).

That make sense?

I took an interest in this when I started IR shooting several plants (some not doing so great) and noticed that the plants that weren't doing so great were actually warmer than the ones that were. Again, I thoguht it must be related to the rate of transpiration. The plants that were struggling/recuperating weren't drinking/transpiring as much, so less cooling factor.
Sometimes I feel leaves (upper canopy) with my fingers and the actually feel cool - compared to the rest of the plant (limbs) and other objects at that height. They're 'sweating'/cooling, I think.

Cool.

Makes sense.... the lights just came on about 30 min ago, and I just checked them at 79 degrees at the top canopy. I was going to read PAR, but I picked up my meter, and the damn 3.7 internal battery on the HydroFarmer was swelled up, and actually popped the battery cover off. Prob out of warranty too.

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

Just downloaded that PHOTON app.... did you have to make that diffuser out of white paper for it to be accurate?

 

[2com]

Makes sense.... the lights just came on about 30 min ago, and I just checked them at 79 degrees at the top canopy. I was going to read PAR, but I picked up my meter, and the damn 3.7 internal battery on the HydroFarmer was swelled up, and actually popped the battery cover off. Prob out of warranty too.

Cool, thanks. And that sucks.

Just downloaded that PHOTON app.... did you have to make that diffuser out of white paper for it to be accurate?

Last I checked - when first reading how to use it and watching theirs and "growinganswers" youtube vid, I heard that only iPhone requires that diy diffuser. It probably mentions it on their website somewhere. Android phone didn't need it.

 

[2com]

It's in the FAQ, search diffuser: https://growlightmeter.com/support/
I think iPhone still does...?
I think this vid shows a neat lil diffuser diy, though paper alone should do (might need a spacer):

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

Cool, thanks. And that sucks.

Last I checked - when first reading how to use it and watching theirs and "growinganswers" youtube vid, I heard that only iPhone requires that diy diffuser. It probably mentions it on their website somewhere. Android phone didn't need it.

Yeah... I had to make one real quick. Went out and check with the diffuser, and im reading about 880 PAR at the center, and around 550-575 on the edges.

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

It's in the FAQ, search diffuser: https://growlightmeter.com/support/
I think iPhone still does...?
I think this vid shows a neat lil diffuser diy, though paper alone should do (might need a spacer):

That's pretty impressive!

 

[2com]

That's pretty impressive!

Yea. IIRC, Migrow did a comprehensive test/comparison as well. He compared Photone, and one or two cheap lux meters (with bluetooth), to an apogee and the results were pretty damn good for Photone and one of the bluetooth lux meters (paired with a different PPFD app, he links it all in the video description).

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

Yeah.. Im liking this app. I like the DLI feature. I actually found out that I was a little hot. I dimmed some of the hot spots down to DLI (which didn't take much)... BUT! I haven't been up on a ladder in a while, and the Dosi is over my head. I saw some light burn on the very top leafs. Nothing that would hinder yield since I caught it early... those leafs will get plucked off in the next defoil anyways. At least I found out why. Very cool man.

 

[2com]

Yeah.. Im liking this app. I like the DLI feature. I actually found out that I was a little hot. I dimmed some of the hot spots down to DLI (which didn't take much)... BUT! I haven't been up on a ladder in a while, and the Dosi is over my head. I saw some light burn on the very top leafs. Nothing that would hinder yield since I caught it early... those leafs will get plucked off in the next defoil anyways. At least I found out why. Very cool man.

The the DLI feature is nice.
Did you get the different light source types? (white light led, blurple, hid, etc.). There's a selector at the bottom. Just in case...

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

The the DLI feature is nice.
Did you get the different light source types? (white light led, blurple, hid, etc.). There's a selector at the bottom. Just in case...

Yeah.. I chose the white LED since I have HLG 550 V2's at 3000K. Figured that was the closest one.

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

Got some defoiling done over the past couple of days. Trying to get some light penetration down in there. Flipped on 12/22/22. Dosi Whoa! is a leaf thrown', hairy bitch.. but she's worth it!

Lemon Cane #10 (mother) is making some nice pre-flowers. If she tests good, she'll stay for the next round.

 

[2com]

The tight internode spacing looks good.

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

The tight internode spacing looks good.

Yessir!... That's what I like about Dosi Whoa!... and that bottom pic Lemon Cane pheno is going to be very close to the Dosi canopy on the next run... can't wait to get the rest of those shitty BitterSweet and Lemon Cane our of there. Can't happen fast enough.. i hate those other plants.