Defoliation questions

[Samwell Seed Well]

New leaves grow back. They are smaller and block less light. Bud sites have time to catch up while the plants are growing the leaves back. Air flow and all of that as well. None of it's proven to my knowledge, but a lot of growers swear by it. It's not that crazy when you think beyond the surface level.

10 small new leaves have way more photosyntheric surface area then 1 old useless leaf that actually take more energy for the plant to keep alive then is actually photysthezing...this has been gone pver extensively in another thread...

Do what works... if defol doesnt work for you, dont do it

Obvously some, mtn growers cant do much but im sure OP will figure out what wokls for them

 

[rkymtnman]

New leaves grow back

thanks for proving my point. then why bother cutting them off?

 

[rkymtnman]

10 small new leaves have way more photosyntheric surface area then 1 old useless leaf

care to show the math on that one, sammy? or any scientific proof ? lol.. good luck!

 

[lusidghost]

thanks for proving my point. then why bother cutting them off?

Can you read beyond that sentence?

 

[rkymtnman]

Can you read beyond that sentence?

no. i have ADHD. sorry.

 

[CANNANOOB0624]

thanks for proving my point. then why bother cutting them off?

Look I get it you need leaves for photosynthesis lol

 

[lusidghost]

One thing I've been wondering is if your plant is showing nitrogen toxicity, would defoliating the plant help or hurt or neither?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

thanks for proving my point. then why bother cutting them off?

Old leaves dont photosynthesize as well as new younger leaves.

Good point.

 

[Markshomegrown]

thanks for proving my point. then why bother cutting them off?

I remove selected leaves as it slow the growth of that shoot, you can almost keep your canopy level by doing this if and slowing the vertical growth makes the bud grow thicker in flower.

Plants with less shoots will grow taller and thicker, plants will more shoots will grow short and thinner, train the plants to grow the way you want them to look.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

care to show the math on that one, sammy? or any scientific proof ? lol.. good luck!

10 is more then 1. Care to show me how it isnt?

 

[rkymtnman]

N is mobile so I think you should remove all leaves for a N toxicity so it can't infect other leaves.

 

[CANNANOOB0624]

One thing I've been wondering is if your plant is showing nitrogen toxicity, would defoliating the plant help or hurt or neither?

I would imagine while your plant is already hurting to fix the issue before defoliating

 

[rkymtnman]

10 is more then 1. Care to show me how it isnt?

surface area. are you as deficient in mathematics as you are in basic English?

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Old leaves dont photosynthesize as well as new younger leaves.

Good point.

Out of curiosity, because I have no idea, why is that true?

 

[CANNANOOB0624]

N is mobile so I think you should remove all leaves for a N toxicity so it can't infect other leaves.

Photosynthesis needs leaves.

 

[buckaclark]

One thing I've been wondering is if your plant is showing nitrogen toxicity, would defoliating the plant help or hurt or neither?

Exactly,He is not a dialed in grower.

 

[rkymtnman]

Out of curiosity, because I have no idea why is that true?

and apparently in his algae infested world, if you cut off 1 leaf 10 leaves miraculously take their place. lmfao!!

 

[rkymtnman]

Photosynthesis needs leaves.

not if you have a N toxicity. you got to get rid of the source

 

[Markshomegrown]

One thing I've been wondering is if your plant is showing nitrogen toxicity, would defoliating the plant help or hurt or neither?

The plant is storing excess food in the old large fan leaves(buffer zone) so removing them will damage the plants health, but you don't need to over feed your plants

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

What?

"The photosynthetic potential exceeds the requirement of the sink as a whole plant. The surplus of photosynthates of young, upper leaves is considered to depress the photosynthetic activity of old, lower leaves. This is a conceivable reason for the rapid decline of photosynthetic activity of a leaf with age."