Mycro in coco

crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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xtsho said:
Do people know that if you chop your plant and leave the roots in the pot for about ten days that you can chop those roots back up and mix them with some soil and you're basically inoculating that soil? The plant that you inoculated and grew would be the trap pot. The mycorrhiza is still on the roots of the plant and can be used to inoculate other plants. Or you can choose to pay for it forever.

A SIMPLE METHOD FOR MAKING YOUR OWN MYCORRHIZAL INOCULUM





I do use microbes with soil grows but not coco. I collect my own though. I get a much wider variety than any commercial product that only has a few specific strains.









People don't understand that.

Youngsang Cho said it pretty well.

"Modern science knows less than one percent of the total number of microorganisms in existence. We know this because only one percent of microorganisms can be cultivated with the methods developed by science.

Modern farming recommends the input of "good" microorganisms and teaches us to suppress the "bad" ones. The selective usage of microbes is regarded as scientific farming. However, it is nonsense to divide "good" and "bad" microorganisms. Remember, we know less than one percent. Use the leaf mold soil as the starter for microorganism culture. JADAM does not separate the "good" ones from the leaf mold soil and uses them selectively."
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i always compost roots and leave them in my recycled soil and yeah there is the innoculant right there. definitely couldn’t have said it better than youngsang cho :)


PJ Diaz said:
The word "need" is tricky, because it's used subjectively. There are a lot of things that we think that we need, but could easily survive without.
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i’ll eloborate then. do we really need it to grow the healthiest plants/do we really need to add that single strain of fungi eventhough its probably already there in the soil with lots of organic amendments.

bk78 said:
Hi welcome to RIU. We’ve never met yet?
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hello i don’t think we have met before i’m new to the interwebs
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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crimsonecho said:
i’ll eloborate then. do we really need it to grow the healthiest plants/do we really need to add that single strain of fungi eventhough its probably already there in the soil with lots of organic amendments.
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Your "probably" qualifier, makes the question difficult to answer, so I'll just say:, probably.
 
PadawanWarrior

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Mykos is just Extreme Gardening's brand name for Mycorrhizae.
Blue Sky's is Myco-Grow.
But it's all Mycorrhizae.
I think part of the confusion is that people call them all Mykos sometimes to make typing easier than typing Mycorrhizae.

There's also different types too. I like Mykos because it only has one type of endo, and no ecto.
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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PJ Diaz said:
Yep, that's what I meant too. You said you want the "healthiest plants", so you gotta do it all, right?
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my plants look like hell atm so i’m not the right guy to ask :D
but i used to do it all run my ewc bin get the best bat shit add lots of organic material well good news i‘ve started doing things the right way again lol

thats my “all” and i personally still find selective fungal and bacterial innoculations to be a little redundant as plant can also regulate its rhizosphere so giving a microbially diverse growing medium should be more than enough imho
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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crimsonecho said:
i personally still find selective fungal and bacterial innoculations to be a little redundant as plant can also regulate its rhizosphere so giving a microbially diverse growing medium should be more than enough imho
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But coming from someone who has plants that look like hell.

OP was asking about coco anyways.
 
McShnutz

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Coco-garden said:
Good call it doesn’t do anything to the ph of the coco does it? That’s what I was mostly worried about
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Fungi take quite a bit longer to establish so for a container style grow I'd refrain from wasting the money. If your going to implement a No Till garden, then yes... They're very beneficial as is Trichoderma and the mass horde of bacteria.
Cannabis is an annual and because of its short life span its evolved a symbiosis with bacteria.
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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McShnutz said:
Fungi take quite a bit longer to establish so for a container style grow I'd refrain from wasting the money. If your going to implement a No Till garden, then yes... They're very beneficial as is Trichoderma and the mass horde of bacteria.
Cannabis is an annual and because of its short life span its evolved a symbiosis with bacteria.
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if you recycle your soil wouldn’t you be basically doing what no till does to some extent? the fungi will have time to establish properly with each cycle and if you use that same soil mix for your bonsai, gave them months in the same pot, which you later veg and flower, with that rich soil wouldn’t the fungi have the time to make a difference?
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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McShnutz said:
Fungi take quite a bit longer to establish so for a container style grow I'd refrain from wasting the money. If your going to implement a No Till garden, then yes... They're very beneficial as is Trichoderma and the mass horde of bacteria.
Cannabis is an annual and because of its short life span its evolved a symbiosis with bacteria.
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It's not because it's an annual. Trees and many plants form a symbiotic relationship to it. The plant feeds the fungi sugars and in return the fungi gives the plants nutrients. They trade each other kinda.

And ya, in a no-till garden it's definitely more helpful since there's a hyphae network already established. I don't use coco, but it can't hurt anything.
 
McShnutz

McShnutz

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crimsonecho said:
if you recycle your soil wouldn’t you be basically doing what no till does to some extent? the fungi will have time to establish properly with each cycle and if you use that same soil mix for your bonsai, gave them months in the same pot, which you later veg and flower, with that rich soil wouldn’t the fungi have the time to make a difference?
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Recycling soil means to till it and reammend. Everytime you do that you disrupt the hyphal network and break-up all the mycelium strands they have to re establish. Still very present but not inter-connected.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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crimsonecho said:
if you recycle your soil wouldn’t you be basically doing what no till does to some extent? the fungi will have time to establish properly with each cycle and if you use that same soil mix for your bonsai, gave them months in the same pot, which you later veg and flower, with that rich soil wouldn’t the fungi have the time to make a difference?
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That depends on if your tilling your soil or not. If you till it you're gonna break up the network. ROLS is different than no-till.
 
McShnutz

McShnutz

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PadawanWarrior said:
It's not because it's an annual. Trees and many plants form a symbiotic relationship to it. The plant feeds the fungi sugars and in return the fungi gives the plants nutrients. They trade each other kinda.

And ya, in a no-till garden it's definitely more helpful since there's a hyphae network already established. I don't use coco, but it can't hurt anything.
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But trees are present for a very long time. They say that every tree in a forest is all connected.
 
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