Any idea why my weed isn't strong ?

Dreaming1

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Grown from seeds or cloned from a known plant you smoked the herb from? If from seeds, it's not every plant. A lot going on in there, it isn't all about getting high. I have grown packs that were ok, made f2 seeds, and got better plants growing them.
If clones, I would talk to supplier.
 

Elon Kush

Active Member
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you got the seeds through seedsman, yeah? Its probably just genetics man, a buddy of mine swears by seedsman and refuses to purchase elsewhere, and the bud looks good, its grown well, he takes his time and puts a lot of energy into his growing, but the end product is almost always a little light in the high department imo.
 

RioBlazeLotaMota

Active Member
Genetics... you can try to put a retard through collage, but in the end, she's gonna fail. No offense to retarded people. Just an example. Takes time, but pheno hunting is key to finding your golden genetics.
Wow! My brother is a RETARD who is the very proud recipient of his Bachelor degree. He graduated with honors, along with the rest of the NON RETARDS.
So, it is GENETICS. Quit fukn your sisters you hillbilly, redneck, southern fried P.O.S.
No offense to hillbilly, redneck, southern fried P.O.S., it’s just up here, we say it like it is.
 

jimihendrix1

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No I flushed the soil with 20 litres of water once then let dry out and then watered every few days all within the final two weeks then I chopped

You made a mistake by flushing, and not giving any food for 2 weeks. While weed may need half or less of what it was getting 2 weeks before harvest. Plants still need food to carry on metabolic function.

Your plants still need a smaller amount of every nutrient. Starving plants for 2 weeks is a myth. They do need less food, but they still need food. Flushing is a myth

Also IMHO even if it was taken a bit early, it still should have had a kick to it. Ive taken buds off of plants that were a month old, dried them in a microwave no less, on defrost, that would completely blow your head off.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Wow! My brother is a RETARD who is the very proud recipient of his Bachelor degree. He graduated with honors, along with the rest of the NON RETARDS.
So, it is GENETICS. Quit fukn your sisters you hillbilly, redneck, southern fried P.O.S.
No offense to hillbilly, redneck, southern fried P.O.S., it’s just up here, we say it like it is.
Whatever. Get used to the forum noob. You sound like a millennial fuck storm. I was just trying to present an example of the MAJORITY of genetics....... props to you brother.
 

Joker90

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you got the seeds through seedsman, yeah? Its probably just genetics man, a buddy of mine swears by seedsman and refuses to purchase elsewhere, and the bud looks good, its grown well, he takes his time and puts a lot of energy into his growing, but the end product is almost always a little light in the high department imo.
Yea man all seedsman first grow was fastbuds
 

Offmymeds

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Genetics. If everthing was done properly the last possibility is genetics.

Also not all NL, or White Widow is the same. And much of it is junk, and nothing like it used to be.

THC is also not an end all determinant of quality of the high. Its just one component.

If you want good NL5 go to AKBeanBrains and email him, and ask for a seed list. [email protected] Hes got the real deal pre 2000 NL5, and NL1. Kali Mist. Williams Wonder, and others.

If you want the best Sk1 genetics go to Authentic Genetics. He also has pure Haze, but only about 1 in 1015 is a keeper, and it takes over 100-120 days to flower, and is best started under a 12/12 light schedule from beginning until end.

The Green Stash on Strainly also has the real deal NL5. The main suppliers of the original NL5 ( Sensi Seeds ) lost their genetics more than 10 years ago. If you notice they dont even advertise it as NL5 anymore. Only NL, yet they still try and fool you with their cannabis cup trophies displayed by the seed description.

Probably the best source of WW is from Mr Nice, and is known as Black Widow. But ive not grown it, and cant tell you the quality.

Also for me, And I dont know if you do, but Id run from Feminized seeds. especially of these old genetics. Out of 20 tries with feminized seeds, Ive never seen 1 of them equal the original genetics from either regular seeds, or clones. Some may beg to differ, but thats my experience, and Im sticking with it.

AKBB also has the pre 2000 NL5 x Haze, Black Domina Hybrids. Super Skunk hybrids. All pre2000 genetics that have been bred right, and had proper selections used, and preserved.

You also cant go wrong with Lucky Dog genetics. If you dont find keepers in every pack, youre doing something wrong. Theyre not cheap though. Same goes for Crickets and Cicada seeds.

Dont skimp on genetics.

Also if youre using the best LED Diodes, you wont need more than 650w for a 4 x 4 arrea.
My 4 X 4 area is evenly covered and the sweet spot for this grow at least seems to be around 480 watts.
 

jimihendrix1

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My 4 X 4 area is evenly covered and the sweet spot for this grow at least seems to be around 480 watts.

To replace a 1000w HID in a 4 x 4 area requires about 650w.

Not my opinion but info from Gavita.

Consider the Gavita 1700e is recommended to replace a 1000w HID in a 4 x 4 area and is 1781umol. Is also 645w


A 1000w Hortilux HPS is right around 1880umol

So going by what Gavita says and recommends their light is good for, it takes 40.3w Sq/ft to equal an HID
 

Babalonian

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Yea man all seedsman first grow was fastbuds
“There’s your problem”.

One thing I saw you mention that others overlooked maybe, I know if you let your trichs start turning amber it is said you get more couchlock munchy effect, but if you go for cloudy and right immediately before amber color shows, it is said the high is more narcotic and betterer for pain treatment.
 

crimsonecho

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i cant speak for the other ones but nl is best when harvested early ime. you gotta sacrifice yields a bit to get the psychedelic effects past 55-60 days it just becomes a heavy body stone.

but if a tester bud is not rocking your world by day 55 then its most likely genetics and i know sensis nl gets some shit from growers over here but i only grew a single seed of nl from them and it was fire really cerebral shit gave me hallucinations :)

i use 450w led in a 4x4 and it works well if i had the option i’d maybe add 50w thats it and thats just a maybe
 
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