Defoliation Trial - 4 Clones

Hobbes

Hobbes

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I stopped topping about a week ago and I've got about an inch of new growth. The 12" below this new growth is useless for growing buds and I'd always prune the sucker leaves and branches but this time I leave one clone fully dressed.

The plants have different canopies but are topped the same number of times.

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The structures to hold the colas is made, now another 2 - 3 weeks to grow the bud growing area.

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Hobbes

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I've got good news - I bought a new lamp from HLG, the Scorpion Diablo. The figures for the last harvest are very low compared to earlier gardens, I've noticed a diminishing yield over the past 2 or 3 grows.

The flower garden is still empty because the 4 clones have another 2-3 week to veg, I'm going to break down the Black Dog led and by next week install my new lamp.

I haven't weighed last harvest yet, they're all curing in Cvaults. I'll get an accurate figure with the Black Dog then we can compare the same genetics under a different light. The new light won't affect the defoliation trial at all.

I've been loyal to Black Dog for 2 1/2 years but I've got a solid feeling that the SD will blow last harvest's figures away.

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HLG Scorpion® Diablo – Horticulture Lighting Group

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Hobbes

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I finished harvesting, curing and weighing my first harvest of Serious Happiness - poor harvest due, in my opinion, to my Black Dog LED dimming.

My harvest weight for the 4 plants, dried and cured to 62%H, came out to 407 grams, not even a pound. My first and second grow were up around 850 grams and the others near there though I didn't weigh all my harvests.

I noticed changes in growth in things like watering - when I first started with the BD LED I was watering every 3 days, later grows I was watering every 6 days. The buds were smaller and airy.

I have the 4 clones in a veg tent and later this week I should get my Scorpion Diablo for the flower tent.

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So instead of just one trial for defoliation we get a second test for yields for the BD and SD.

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Rurumo

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Hobbes said:
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One thing I have to say about Serious Seeds' Serious Happiness is that it has some punch!

I ran a Volcano bag about 4 hours ago and I'm still getting the white outs from the original hits. Potent.

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Serious Happiness Strain | Originals by Serious Seeds

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I actually just vaped some earlier Hobbes, it turned out really nice, not just the potency, but the high. It's a lot less racy than the Kali Mist, but really tuned in perfectly for daytime smoke.
 
Hobbes

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Rurumo did you notice a strong grape odor when smoking SH?

I vape mine and there's a brief space where the vapor escapes into the room, very strong grape smell but I don't get it in taste.

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Hobbes

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Haitham I haven`t swazzeed any of the 4 clones, only lollipoped 3 of them and left the 4th as the control with no defoliation.. This weekend I`m going to defoliate two plants and flip them into flower, then defoliate the second swazzeed clone 20 days later.

It`ll probably be 2-3 weeks before I notice any differences, I`ll update more often than I have been and post some pics.

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Horselover fat

Horselover fat

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I think I'll drop this here... The defo threads are usually too hectic and filled with laughing emojis.

My last grow I had some troubles in veg and most fans got a bit damaged. I fixed my problem and then decided to experiment. I removed pretty much all leaves except for the small new growth. I have defoliated quite heavily before so I didn't really fear for the plant, and having had problems with it I didn't care that much either.

This is the plant after removing most leaves. Pretty sad looking, right?

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This is the same plant one week later

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Such a shock for the plant ;)
 
bk78

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Horselover fat said:
I think I'll drop this here... The defo threads are usually too hectic and filled with laughing emojis.

My last grow I had some troubles in veg and most fans got a bit damaged. I fixed my problem and then decided to experiment. I removed pretty much all leaves except for the small new growth. I have defoliated quite heavily before so I didn't really fear for the plant, and having had problems with it I didn't care that much either.

This is the plant after removing most leaves. Pretty sad looking, right?

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This is the same plant one week later

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Such a shock for the plant ;)
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Im not buying that’s a week after you stripped it. Do you have a journal where you recorded this by any chance?
 
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Haitham600

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I believe this is a week. What I want to understand is how did you keep it so short and stubby. I see the main trunk thickness and that's why I believe the plant can recover in 1 week. It is pulling healthy nutrients in vast amounts. My plants trunk turns this thick in mid flowering.
 
Horselover fat

Horselover fat

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Haitham600 said:
I believe this is a week. What I want to understand is how did you keep it so short and stubby. I see the main trunk thickness and that's why I believe the plant can recover in 1 week. It is pulling healthy nutrients in vast amounts. My plants trunk turns this thick in mid flowering.
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The training was pretty good, thanks :) i just start LST early and keep at it. Nothing fancier really. Just keep the main at the same level as the rest and pull branches where you want them.

And I checked the dates. It was actually eight days. First pics on 10th november and the leafy one on 18th.
 
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Haitham600

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I do the same, I don't cut the top though, but I tie it down to allow all the branches to grow evenly. Maybe cutting the top is what makes the trunk thicken up.
 
Horselover fat

Horselover fat

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Haitham600 said:
I do the same, I don't cut the top though, but I tie it down to allow all the branches to grow evenly. Maybe cutting the top is what makes the trunk thicken up.
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No topping. Only bending and tying... and some breaking of the branches to help set them at an angle.
 
xtsho

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Horselover fat said:
I think I'll drop this here... The defo threads are usually too hectic and filled with laughing emojis.

My last grow I had some troubles in veg and most fans got a bit damaged. I fixed my problem and then decided to experiment. I removed pretty much all leaves except for the small new growth. I have defoliated quite heavily before so I didn't really fear for the plant, and having had problems with it I didn't care that much either.

This is the plant after removing most leaves. Pretty sad looking, right?

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This is the same plant one week later

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Such a shock for the plant ;)
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How long has that plant been growing overall?
 
Horselover fat

Horselover fat

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xtsho said:
How long has that plant been growing overall?
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This was taken on 6th october and the naked plant pic 10th novemember. I had put the clone in coco a couple of days earlier (that's a three litre pot btw). Prior to that it was in a small rockwool cube and lit by a three watt led bulb.

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