Grow to sell seeds worth it , small scale ?

amneziaHaze

amneziaHaze

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there is a whole reasearch from that guy that came after darwin about cross breeding its an interesting read.
then its all about you cloning saving and realizing what you have.
with a few tests showing thc levels and speed of flower you could become a reputable seller. i would recomend grow diary on a forum soo everybody can see your progress and then they can say his genetics sucks or his on to something. its the best or it could be the best....
 
lusidghost

lusidghost

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xtsho said:
The problem these days is that reputable breeder means different things these days. Some of us consider a reputable breeder to be someone that actually breeds and spends the time to work their creations which can take time. Some consider a pollen chucker on instagram making crosses as fast as they can and has "Drops" that they wait up all night for to be a reputable breeder.

Give it a shot. Provision a $20 a month VPS to host a website, create a webpage using a simple wordpress template, create an instagram account, create a bunch of shill accounts, work all the forums using multiple accounts talking up your genetics. For instance make posts asking if anyone has ever used X genetics. X being you. Make a comment about how you heard from someone about them and their prices are really good and they have fast shipping and great customer service.

Make sure that you don't offer everything directly on your website. Save the cool stuff for "Drops" that you announce. Limited edition stuff, etc...

You're also going to need to figure out payment processing and shipping.

It isn't rocket science.
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This reminds me of this, which came out at the height of dubstep.
 
Lordhooha

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Chapl said:
The OP was thinking about producing seed but did not mention breeding. This is very common in regular farming, most of the seeds avail in veg seed catalogs are grown by non-breeder farmers. And most of the “breeders” in the canna game currently aren’t really breeding per se, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t making good seed with good results, it just means they aren’t working lines and selecting from large populations, they aren’t doing traditional breeding, because they can’t. What they seem to mostly be doing is finding a solid male with proven results and keeping that male around and hitting it to everything. Or just doing basic crosses, finding a great female out of that cross, and producing fem seeds, or something with the cuts. This can be done and is done at a small scale. There’s a reason GG4 is GG4 and not GG#238. I am sure GG4 would be called GG74 or something today to imply it was selected out of a larger pool.

The question to me is can seed production for market be done at a small scale and the answer is yes. Most every episode of the Pot Cast (Heavy Dayze) features small scale producers. Just be transparent with what you do, how tested anything is, and start by giving out seeds for feedback and to build a reputation. If you find a path to a good cross, and you still have the parents, you can keep on going with that one. I would focus on one golden cross, away from the hype, that produces something special and that people keep coming back to, and just that ride that into the small-scale sunset
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What you should be asking is do you trust seeds from a guy that only post about how he weed sucks.......and never gets him high. And you can produce seeds in the cannabis world is breeding just most of the guys out here doing it suck because all they see is money yo. So they never produce quality stuff big or small grows.
 
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Chapl

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Lordhooha said:
What you should be asking is do you trust seeds from a guy that only post about how he weed sucks.......and never gets him high. And you can produce seeds in the cannabis world is breeding just most of the guys out here doing it suck because all they see is money yo. So they never produce quality stuff big or small grows.
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I hear ya, trust and transparency matter and the good guys in the biz say there isn’t much money at the end of this rainbow if you do things the right way, it’s a calling and a passion, not a path to riches
 
Friendly_Grower

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Wonderful thread!

I've been wondering the same things.
I think I have a medical strain that could be helpful to others like it is helpful to me and I too was wondering how to share the gear.
It would be nice to recoup some of the electric bill but I was thinking the better title would be strain maintainer.

Are there companies that allow independents to sell on their site?
 
Friendly_Grower

Friendly_Grower

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xtsho said:
3 years and 8 generations on one of my crosses. I do it as a hobby with absolutely no intention of trying to sell anything. I like the fact that I have my own strains and will never buy seeds again unless I come across a landrace I just have to have.
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Do you have suggestions on record keeping?
I was looking at software available but nothing looked good.
I think it is an excellent hobby. I already see differences in those F1s I grew. Solid stem, hollow stem. One clone did early male flowering when shaded and the other did not trigger early (two males). One tall with a thicker stalk. The other shorter. One had a stronger stem rub and was also sweeter (females). And so on.

I've just grown out some 10 year old F1s of a very up Sativa / Haze gifted to me directly by the grower and the first Run of GreenHouse's "The Doctor" circa 2008 or 2009. I made enough F2 seeds that hopefully ten years from now some will still germinate as well.

It's exciting that I may do as you do and look to have generations too.

I hope I'm not off topic.
 
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A.k.a

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People have zero appreciation for how much work it takes to really breed something legitimate.

this has become a huge problem with mushrooms lately also. People take a clone and call it something new while having no idea that the spores from it are almost a complete genetic reset. Let alone running something out to f7+ where you’ll get consistent results.

And breeding a stable weed strain is a much longer and harder process than mushrooms are.

All these people selling “new” stuff should have to get a little certificate saying they’ve passed a basic genetics course and watched the work of a real breeding process so they’ll be too ashamed to call pollen chucking seeds new strains.
 
GreenestBasterd

GreenestBasterd

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As has been said already if you do make seeds, forget the money and work on something to a point you can feel proud of it and then just give them out to anyone who grows. Good growers, shit growers, terrible growers and maybe a few “master growers” (lots about recently) then you’ll have a good idea of how they performs when others grow them.

then after all that, and if people say they would actually grow them again and liked the plants, decide if you really really want to bother being the millionth guy selling seeds.

Just my opinion but start doing it for the love long before the money.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Friendly_Grower said:
Do you have suggestions on record keeping?
I was looking at software available but nothing looked good.
I think it is an excellent hobby. I already see differences in those F1s I grew. Solid stem, hollow stem. One clone did early male flowering when shaded and the other did not trigger early (two males). One tall with a thicker stalk. The other shorter. One had a stronger stem rub and was also sweeter (females). And so on.

I've just grown out some 10 year old F1s of a very up Sativa / Haze gifted to me directly by the grower and the first Run of GreenHouse's "The Doctor" circa 2008 or 2009. I made enough F2 seeds that hopefully ten years from now some will still germinate as well.

It's exciting that I may do as you do and look to have generations too.

I hope I'm not off topic.
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I started to make a spreadsheet but never finished it. I started coding an app myself but never finished it.

In the end I found this to be a simple yet effective method for keeping records.

 
GreenestBasterd

GreenestBasterd

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xtsho said:
I started to make a spreadsheet but never finished it. I started coding an app myself but never finished it.

In the end I found this to be a simple yet effective method for keeping records.

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xtsho said:
I started to make a spreadsheet but never finished it. I started coding an app myself but never finished it.

In the end I found this to be a simple yet effective method for keeping records.

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great battery life too!
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Friendly_Grower said:
Great protection from online hackers!
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And I can take pictures of the pages and store them on a thumb drive if I want.

I'll probably throw an app together in C# just because I haven't really coded anything for awhile and don't want to forget how. Use it or lose it.
 
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