Billy the Mountain
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No, it generates 33% more heatMy 800w panel push as much heat as my 600 HPS
No, it generates 33% more heatMy 800w panel push as much heat as my 600 HPS
"Prove me otherwise"? LOL. You want me to disprove something which you haven't shown any evdence to support yourself? Get the fuck outta here.Generally lol
So I guess you take LEDs growers as perfect man that never over heat their canopy lol
My 800w panel push as much heat as my 600 HPS
You try to legitimise your claims In relying on people ability to maintain good heat while in fact many burn their plants many times including me.
If u compare a 90w led in terms of heat then ok bro you are right
Less trichomein higher canopy’s is 99% over heating problem
Prove me otherwise
Genetics ? You make me laugh really
But I won’t put a laughing smiley on ur posts like BK78
BS. Put your hand on the panel for as long as you can without burining yourself. Now grap the lit HPS bulb for the same amount of time. Then go to the hospitle to be treated for burns. You are just spouting nonesense at this point (you really have been all along).This panel gets hot, no less then a 600 hps bulb.
I dont care how they push it, stop talking to me in ON PAPER terms and start talking about real lifeBS. Put your hand on the panel for as long as you can without burining yourself. Now grap the lit HPS bulb for the same amount of time. Then go to the hospitle to be treated for burns. You are just spouting nonesense at this point (you really have been all along).
They are certainly not better, not for flowering MJ, not for now.I always get drawn into these debates lol, I can never tell if it’s someone who is trolling with an agenda (which I’ve came across as in the past) or someone legitimately trying to further the cause and debate with their peers.
I didn’t even know this was a Mars thread or I wud of never posted haha (NAUGHTY MARS!!! Haha lying to us 10 years ago about the blurples!!!)
It’s actually nice to see Mars making some decent entry line fixtures these days. It’s crazy in terms of user friendliness for the newbie, how much better hps was than blurple, and how much better full spec white lights these days are compared to hps.
Actucally that's not true. I've measured leaf surface temps under LED and also under various types of HID (including HPS). The leaf surface temp is always a few degrees higher under HID than it is under LED. The reason for this is obvious, it's due to the IR heat which is thrown by HID lighting. I mean really, this is basic stuff.I dont care how they push it, stop talking to me in ON PAPER terms and start talking about real life
IN real life, my tent and canopy is heated under the panel just like a 600w will heat it
I didn't suggest that was due to genetics, you misread me. I suggested that increased frost in general is related to genetics and overall health of the plant.And lower frost at canopy then at lower bud sites is not Genetics !
you need to get your story straight or at least show some info on this claim.
800w in a 4x8 is your issue. No wonder you can’t grow donkey dicks covered in frost like the rest of us.17,000 btu a/c inside the 4x8, can barley keep up in hot summer days.
This panel gets hot, no less then a 600 hps bulb.
Most of the game in growing is Heat management, some genetics will take heat better then others, but as a rule heat will demolish your results, and demolish them the fastest where it is most present - the canopy.
2 X 800w, each cover 4 X 4, please read before posting.800w in a 4x8 is your issue. No wonder you can’t grow donkey dicks covered in frost like the rest of us.
Which fixtures exactly?2 X 800w, each cover 4 X 4, please read before posting.
..and heat management should be treated differently under HID vs LED light sources.Basic stuff indeed, still, good heat management will resolve this issue.
Bro thats exectly what you said, but i wont hold you for it as its not a barking match, and i really dont care what every person saysI didn't suggest that was due to genetics, you misread me. I suggested that increased frost in general is related to genetics and overall health of the plant.
I can see how you misread me, however if you go back an look at that post, you will see that I used paragraphical punctuation to seperate those two statements.Bro thats exectly what you said, but i wont hold you for it as its not a barking match, and i really dont care what every person says
Increased Frost is genetic to an extant, i do agree on that.
Makes sense why you don't like led.Agreed.
This is the panel:
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Rated at 110K Lm (Total Ofcourse)
2.8 Umol (sigh)
PPFD Avg at 10 Inch: 900
90 angle lenses
Meanwell drivers, all philips diodes