Do you tell a person when their plant is shitty?

DrOgkush

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In California for legal shops the sample has to be based on the size of the batch. If you have a large batch (say a few hundred pounds, like 300-500), your sample size might be a pound or more. There's also a maximum batch size and if you grow more than the maximum batch size, it gets split and treated as a separate batch that needs its own sample.

For what it's worth, labs testing for the legal distributors are testing for potency, pesticides, microbes, heavy metals, solvents, and moisture content/relative humidity. The terpenes aren't mandated by the state but anyone paying for labs is going to want it because it will help their stuff sell. Some things won't get picked up by that battery of test, for example, someone could be using paclobutrazol and not have it show up because it's not being tested for.
Those split batch your referring to. Always come out with different number too.
I did care, that’s why I originally asked the question…

I don’t sell, so I didn’t know that was how they did it. As a home grower, labs can test with samples of less than 0.5g per test.
I think minimum size to test is 10 grams or something in that range acs just got back to me. And they’re on that same level as canna the other company I talked to.

and as I stated above earlier. Terpene profile is not a required test by law. I rather not pay the extra for that. Because my nose and taste buds kinda tell me if it’s terpy or not.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Those split batch your referring to. Always come out with different number too.

I think minimum size to test is 10 grams or something in that range acs just got back to me. And they’re on that same level as canna the other company I talked to.

and as I stated above earlier. Terpene profile is not a required test by law. I rather not pay the extra for that. Because my nose and taste buds kinda tell me if it’s terpy or not.
Personally I’d only be interested in THC and terpene profile. Just for curiosity sake. Thinking of bringing a sample of my last run to the lab. Pretty curious about it.
 

PJ Diaz

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All labs test differently, in terms of selection. And, depending on how much you're williing to pay, they will help you to game the system. Some places will select a gram or so to test randomly out of a pound, and others will let you hand pick your own sample. Frankly I wouldn't trust tests half as much as I would trust my own eyes and nose, and most importantly the smoking experience.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Just FYI.. the lab requirements for Oklahoma are 10 grams per 15 lb batch, per strain. So if we make 15.8 lbs , I’m gonna hold back that .8 or a little more .. I’m not about to pay $300 plus for that small of a batch. Then you have to test the trim off of that 15lb batch as well. It can get pretty expensive. Word on the street is that about 30% fail for microbes., and ~ 10% for heavy metals. … about the same for pesticides.
 

DrOgkush

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Just FYI.. the lab requirements for Oklahoma are 10 grams per 15 lb batch, per strain. So if we make 15.8 lbs , I’m gonna hold back that .8 or a little more .. I’m not about to pay $300 plus for that small of a batch. Then you have to test the trim off of that 15lb batch as well. It can get pretty expensive. Word on the street is that about 30% fail for microbes., and ~ 10% for heavy metals. … about the same for pesticides.
Sample size out here California must be 0.35% of total weight. 50lbs max. And like you were saying cant exceed 50. If it does. They are broken into sub batch’s. Cannot surpass 150,000 units

I also was just told in email that moisture content can’t exceed 13%.
 

calvin.m16

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Just let them grow in blissful ignorance. I avoid going around any other grows or having people in my grow anymore due to pest/disease problems. I won't even take a fuckin chance anymore. I don't even go into the grow shop anymore I get the shit delivered then fog it with hydrogen peroxide solution before even bringing it inside. :lol:
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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They actually take pollen to a processor bee who then takes it up and vomits it to the honey comb, where he/she caps the cell to lock out moisture. It then gets "cured" by evaporation of the moisture to create the thick honey....... science and random knowledge shit.
Closer...but not quite there.

Bees collect nectar and pollen. Pollen isn't 'eaten' but the bee collects it on structures on her legs. The pollen also goes into the honeycomb, but in specific cells that are usually on the brood frames as opposed to the nectar, which tends to be on the outskirts of the brood frames in small quantity but also in bulk at the top of the hive structure.

Yes, the nectar is ingested then 'spit out' into the cells. When a cell (more like a whole frame of cells) is full, the honeycomb remains uncapped so that the moisture can evaporate out to the right density. Once that happens, bees then know to seal off the cells of honey with the wax capping. Bees can and do move the nectar around in the hive to suit their needs (usually so the queen has a good area to lay eggs).
 

DrOgkush

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It’s bee puke. No way around it. It’s ingested. The bee absorbs waters. Spits it back up next bees turn. Until it’s at the correct moisture content it’s cell wall sealed/capped off.
But it’s flat out regurgitation. Over and over again. we love it, And it’s good for us.
 

PadawanWarrior

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It’s bee puke. No way around it. It’s ingested. The bee absorbs waters. Spits it back up next bees turn. Until it’s at the correct moisture content it’s cell wall sealed/capped off.
But it’s flat out regurgitation. Over and over again. we love it, And it’s good for us.
It's not really puke. They actually have 2 stomachs. One for food, and one for nectar.
 

DrOgkush

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He’s actually right. They do have a nectar storage pouch. But it still goes in and out the same place. Imo. That’s vomit. Lol.
 
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