January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.
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Trump without his orange make up.........yuck.
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Jan. 6 panel agrees to turn over 20 depositions to DOJ
The House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol expects to turn over 20 depositions to the Department of Justice as it accelerates its probe into the riot that day.
Lawmakers on the panel confirmed Friday that it would share the depositions shortly after coming to an agreement with the Justice Department following months of standoff between the two entities over sharing their work.
“I’m not certain who the 20 will be. But I would generally say that they’d probably be persons of interest, either they’re taking them to court or something like that,” Chair Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) told reporters Friday.
The agreement to share some committee work follows news that the Justice Department brought two former aides to Vice President Mike Pence before a grand jury. They’ve also secured the cooperation of Kenneth Kulkowski, who worked alongside Jeffrey Clark, the assistant attorney general that former President Trump weighed installing as attorney general to forward investigations into purported voter fraud.
All can weigh in on a broader effort by the Trump campaign to focus on its fake elector scheme, using baseless claims of voter fraud as a justification for sending fake electoral certificates from key states President Biden had won.
Reporting from The New York Times earlier this month also indicates the Justice Department is beginning to more directly investigate Trump’s actions surrounding Jan. 6.
“Donald Trump was not an innocent bystander to these events, and he was at the center of a lot of the action. So I imagine if you’re the Department of Justice, and you’re investigating criminal offenses against the United States, his name would be coming up,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) told reporters Friday.
“We don’t know that there’s an investigation into him going on. But I do understand, at least from press reportage, that his name has come up in those grand jury investigations, and it seems to me implausible that it wouldn’t come up.”
The committee had previously said DOJ was too broad in its request for information from the panel, essentially asking them to turn over all depositions. Thompson relented on his earlier position that DOJ come in for an “in camera” review of documents, instead agreeing to turn over a smaller subset of depositions after DOJ narrowed their request.
“We’ve collected a lot of information, and I think a broad brush request would have interfered with the normal process of our work. We now have it cataloged to where it’s reasonable. Initially, we talked about an in camera review of material and we’ve since modified that to make information available upon request,” Thompson said.
“They won’t go beyond 20 at this point, and we think that’s reasonable. And after that, we’ll negotiate it. But everything we’ve done at some point will be made available to the public anyway, and if DOJ has an interest in particular individuals now, we will do that.”
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The House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol expects to turn over 20 depositions to the Department of Justice as it accelerates its probe into the riot that day.
Lawmakers on the panel confirmed Friday that it would share the depositions shortly after coming to an agreement with the Justice Department following months of standoff between the two entities over sharing their work.
“I’m not certain who the 20 will be. But I would generally say that they’d probably be persons of interest, either they’re taking them to court or something like that,” Chair Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) told reporters Friday.
The agreement to share some committee work follows news that the Justice Department brought two former aides to Vice President Mike Pence before a grand jury. They’ve also secured the cooperation of Kenneth Kulkowski, who worked alongside Jeffrey Clark, the assistant attorney general that former President Trump weighed installing as attorney general to forward investigations into purported voter fraud.
All can weigh in on a broader effort by the Trump campaign to focus on its fake elector scheme, using baseless claims of voter fraud as a justification for sending fake electoral certificates from key states President Biden had won.
Reporting from The New York Times earlier this month also indicates the Justice Department is beginning to more directly investigate Trump’s actions surrounding Jan. 6.
“Donald Trump was not an innocent bystander to these events, and he was at the center of a lot of the action. So I imagine if you’re the Department of Justice, and you’re investigating criminal offenses against the United States, his name would be coming up,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) told reporters Friday.
“We don’t know that there’s an investigation into him going on. But I do understand, at least from press reportage, that his name has come up in those grand jury investigations, and it seems to me implausible that it wouldn’t come up.”
The committee had previously said DOJ was too broad in its request for information from the panel, essentially asking them to turn over all depositions. Thompson relented on his earlier position that DOJ come in for an “in camera” review of documents, instead agreeing to turn over a smaller subset of depositions after DOJ narrowed their request.
“We’ve collected a lot of information, and I think a broad brush request would have interfered with the normal process of our work. We now have it cataloged to where it’s reasonable. Initially, we talked about an in camera review of material and we’ve since modified that to make information available upon request,” Thompson said.
“They won’t go beyond 20 at this point, and we think that’s reasonable. And after that, we’ll negotiate it. But everything we’ve done at some point will be made available to the public anyway, and if DOJ has an interest in particular individuals now, we will do that.”
Jan. 6 panel agrees to turn over 20 depositions to DOJ
The House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol expects to turn over 20 depositions to the Department of Justice as it accelerates its probe into the riot that day. Lawmak…
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What Donald Trump's Cabinet can tell January 6 investigators | CNN Politics
The House select committee and the Justice Department are now coming for all the ex-President's men and women.
What Donald Trump’s Cabinet can tell January 6 investigators
The House select committee and the Justice Department are now coming for all the ex-President’s men and women.
The expanding scope of the probes into former President Donald Trump’s bid to thwart the transfer of power to President Joe Biden’s administration heralds growing peril for Trump and his deepest, inner circle.
There are growing signs that investigators are seeking, and securing, testimony into exactly what Trump said, did and tried to do in the fraught days inside the West Wing ahead of the January 6, 2021, insurrection.
The former President and likely 2024 White House candidate is now facing a two-front challenge from big-time Washington investigations.
The House select committee investigating the US Capitol attack has been up and running for months, and it held televised hearings all summer that presented chilling new details about Trump’s actions after he lost the election to Biden. The full extent of a Justice Department investigation has only become clear this week – and is crucial since it could potentially lead to criminal charges against key players in the drama.
Both probes are accelerating and are gathering testimony from senior officials around Trump, with the former President’s Cabinet of special interest.
Former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, ex-Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia, former Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller and former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen have already spoken to the House select committee. The panel has been in talks with former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for a deposition. Sources told CNN the committee is negotiating terms for a potential interview with former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe.
And some of the moments of the recent televised hearings that damaged Trump the most came from taped testimony from ex-Attorney General William Barr – though he left the Cabinet before the January 6 conflagration. On Thursday, the committee met with former acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, who was also out of the West Wing at the bitter end of the Trump administration serving as Northern Ireland envoy, though he was in contact with senior officials.
Justice Department readies for legal battle
The Justice Department has also been busy. It emerged this week that Marc Short and Greg Jacob, former senior staffers to former Vice President Mike Pence, went before the federal grand jury in Washington. And CNN’s Katelyn Polantz and Evan Perez reported exclusively on Thursday that the Justice Department is girding for a legal battle to force testimony from senior former officials on issues that Trump has claimed may be subject to executive privilege. A move this aggressive suggests litigation – with the potential to go all the way to the Supreme Court, which could prolong the investigation and potentially pitch it right into the middle of the 2024 presidential campaign that Trump is poised to join.
But it’s also a sign of intent inside the Justice Department investigation following weeks of publicly expressed frustration, including from House select committee members, that it was dragging its feet on a criminal investigation.
“This tells me that the DOJ is bracing for battle,” CNN legal analyst Elie Honig said on “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer” on Thursday. CNN’s Perez reported that the two former Pence aides were able to provide significant information to the grand jury. And Carrie Cordero, a former senior Justice Department official who is now a CNN analyst, said the Justice Department’s nascent legal gambit to combat Trump’s executive privilege claims suggested that Jacob and Short had more to say “but did not.”
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Roger A. Shrubber
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it will be interesting to see who those 20 people are...Jan. 6 panel agrees to turn over 20 depositions to DOJ
The House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol expects to turn over 20 depositions to the Department of Justice as it accelerates its probe into the riot that day.
Lawmakers on the panel confirmed Friday that it would share the depositions shortly after coming to an agreement with the Justice Department following months of standoff between the two entities over sharing their work.
“I’m not certain who the 20 will be. But I would generally say that they’d probably be persons of interest, either they’re taking them to court or something like that,” Chair Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) told reporters Friday.
The agreement to share some committee work follows news that the Justice Department brought two former aides to Vice President Mike Pence before a grand jury. They’ve also secured the cooperation of Kenneth Kulkowski, who worked alongside Jeffrey Clark, the assistant attorney general that former President Trump weighed installing as attorney general to forward investigations into purported voter fraud.
All can weigh in on a broader effort by the Trump campaign to focus on its fake elector scheme, using baseless claims of voter fraud as a justification for sending fake electoral certificates from key states President Biden had won.
Reporting from The New York Times earlier this month also indicates the Justice Department is beginning to more directly investigate Trump’s actions surrounding Jan. 6.
“Donald Trump was not an innocent bystander to these events, and he was at the center of a lot of the action. So I imagine if you’re the Department of Justice, and you’re investigating criminal offenses against the United States, his name would be coming up,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) told reporters Friday.
“We don’t know that there’s an investigation into him going on. But I do understand, at least from press reportage, that his name has come up in those grand jury investigations, and it seems to me implausible that it wouldn’t come up.”
The committee had previously said DOJ was too broad in its request for information from the panel, essentially asking them to turn over all depositions. Thompson relented on his earlier position that DOJ come in for an “in camera” review of documents, instead agreeing to turn over a smaller subset of depositions after DOJ narrowed their request.
“We’ve collected a lot of information, and I think a broad brush request would have interfered with the normal process of our work. We now have it cataloged to where it’s reasonable. Initially, we talked about an in camera review of material and we’ve since modified that to make information available upon request,” Thompson said.
“They won’t go beyond 20 at this point, and we think that’s reasonable. And after that, we’ll negotiate it. But everything we’ve done at some point will be made available to the public anyway, and if DOJ has an interest in particular individuals now, we will do that.”
Jan. 6 panel agrees to turn over 20 depositions to DOJ
The House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol expects to turn over 20 depositions to the Department of Justice as it accelerates its probe into the riot that day. Lawmak…
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Lawrence: Trump Will Likely Be A Defendant For The Rest Of His Life
327,163 views Jul 29, 2022 Former President Donald Trump is facing legal exposure on multiple fronts, including a civil lawsuit filed by 8 Capitol police officers who defended the Capitol during the January 6th riot. MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains why 76-year-old Donald Trump is likely to be a defendant for the rest of his life.
And it's going to drive him to his grave. Be prepared for the letdown.
hanimmal
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What a Champ!
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What's to hide..Trump from his delicate sensibilities? Does he really think Trump gives a flying fuck about him?
Jared Kushner Tried to Hide Cancer Diagnosis From Father-in-Law Trump
Kushner, who was a top adviser in Donald Trump's White House at the time of his diagnosis, had surgery in 2019.
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What's to hide..Trump from his delicate sensibilities? Does he really think Trump gives a flying fuck about him?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i won't be disappointed if trump dies before he's punished, only relieved that he's gone.
then the DOJ can get about their business of cleaning up his gang
Fogdog
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lulz
Trump lied to the media 35,000 times when he was in office. And I mean bald faced lies, not what Schiff said. By your standard, Trump should be locked away for a hundred thousand years for all of his lies.
So very, very desperate your kind have become.
I anticipated this. People were complaining about how slowly things were going. But they timed it perfectly. Get the news out too soon and Rebuglicans will have time to do damage control before the elections. But no, we are now only 90 days or so away from the election. Throughout August and September, the drip, drip, drip of bad news, former allies of Trump turning on him, indictments of co conspirators and the loss in confidence by his supporters will give aid to Democrats and damage Trump's loyal supporters in Congress. It's just beginning to hit home. Trump looks like the picture in the Portrait of Dorian Grey. Even Fox and Friends are admitting that Trump's support even among Republicans is collapsing. They even apologized to Trump on air when they reported the facts on this. Like scared Nazi generals reporting to Hitler in his bunker that he was in fact about to be overrun by the Russians. luz. You have nothing.
Your posts are weak. As weak as Trump's assertion that as president he can commit any crime he wants as long as he says he believed he was acting in the good faith.
"I believed I won the election, so my attempt to overturn it and murder my political enemies is protected because a President has absolute immunity." Does that not sound like a weak and desperate argument?
Suggest you try using that defense for a speeding ticket.
"The police officer said I was going 85 in a 65 mph zone? Judge, I believe I was going the speed limit."
Do you intend on keeping your Social Security check?
DIY-HP-LED
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The Beat is doing a special on Trump's multiple plots for J6 and before, on now.
cannabineer
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please do not conflate or associate rape of minors with what consenting adults do. That is a rhetorical tool akin to that used by the toxics.
cannabineer
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plus rep.
(was the rep system still there when you joined? Likes were nice but getting plus rep was special.)
cannabineer
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it looks like someone exfoliated him wth a power tool.
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Trump's Criminal Intent Exposed: How Jan. 6 Plan Emerged From Military Coup Plot (MSNBC Pt 1)
32,374 views Jul 29, 2022 Donald Trump only turned to his plan to summon MAGA supporters to D.C. on Jan. 6th, which grew into the criminal insurrection, after the failure of other plots to steal the election. MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber charts exactly how Trump shifted to embrace that Jan. 6 plan, and how new the details add to evidence of actual, "criminal intent" by Trump and his aides -- a requirement for any indictment and criminal trial.
Melber documents eight different plots to overturn the 2020 election for this MSNBC Special Report, "Inside Trump's Election Plot." The original special, broadcast after the conclusion of the Congressional hearings into Jan. 6, draws on government evidence, testimony, primary documents, independent reporting, and some of Melber's own newsmaking interviews with participants, subjects and one indicted White House aide, Peter Navarro, to show how the effort to overturn the election reflected an attempted conspiracy over several months -- and not only the narrower set of events surrounding January 6, 2021. The distinction could prove pivotal to any criminal conspiracy case against the exposed election plots. (This is the first excerpt from the Special Report; a second excerpt of the conclusion is also available online.)
A Trump Coup Nightmare: Prosecutors Probe Full Conspiracy, Not Just Jan. 6 (MSNBC Pt 2)
984 views Jul 29, 2022 MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on the evidence of actual, "criminal intent" by Trump and his aides, a requirement for any indictment and criminal trial, and documents eight different plots to overturn the 2020 election for this MSNBC Special Report. "Inside Trump's Election Plot." The original special, broadcast after the conclusion of the Congressional hearings into Jan. 6, draws on government evidence, testimony, primary documents, independent reporting, and some of Melber's own newsmaking interviews with participants, subjects and one indicted White House aide, Peter Navarro, to show how the effort to overturn the election reflected an attempted conspiracy over several months -- and not only the narrower set of events surrounding January 6, 2021. The distinction could prove pivotal to any criminal conspiracy case against the exposed election plots.
cannabineer
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I have always thought of January 6 as our analog of the Reichstag fire. The main difference is that ours seems more and more to have failed just shy of critical mass.
I felt the wind of its passage.
I felt the wind of its passage.