GS Plants Yucca Extract from Amazon, wtf!

DrDukePHD

DrDukePHD

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I ordered a $30 thing of powdered GS Plants Yucca Extract. The "orange" version was the first one I got (and filed a return on) it smelled a bit like Vinegar. The "Tan/cream" version was the replacement Amazon sent, no smell to that one.

I suspect at least one had been tampered with, returned & then sent to me as "new". Both came with the tamper seal already unsealed. Which one looks NORMAL to you? (both exactly the same product lol)

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This is just adding to my list of reasons to avoid Amazon. I really feel like a lot of their inventory is previously returned items. Yuck
 
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ALPHA.GanjaGuy

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DrDukePHD said:
I ordered a $30 thing of powdered GS Plants Yucca Extract. The "orange" version was the first one I got (and filed a return on) it smelled a bit like Vinegar. The "Tan/cream" version was the replacement Amazon sent, no smell to that one.

I suspect at least one had been tampered with, returned & then sent to me as "new". Both came with the tamper seal already unsealed. Which one looks NORMAL to you? (both exactly the same product lol)

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This is just adding to my list of reasons to avoid Amazon. I really feel like a lot of their inventory is previously returned items. Yuck
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The place I work is an Amazon/eBay/other marketplace seller.. This happens all the time on Amazon, often times it's not even the previous customers fault but lazy or non-informed Amazon staff.

Amazon staff will often times just mark it back in and call it a day, let the next customer deal with it.

as was mentioned by @RottyRzr I would return it if the tamper proof seal is tampered with. You can tell Amazon also but the customer service team are not connected to the warehouse staff and cannot cross communicate in any way. More likely, they will offer you a refund without return to avoid the product going back into stock
 
DrDukePHD

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xtsho said:
That outfit is an LLC based in Florida. It looks likely that they're just repackaging cheap imported Chinese product. I don't know where they source it from but if it came from China the quality is suspect.
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So are you suggesting If i order a powder from China & put it in another smaller box... i can then sell it to you as "Made in the USA"? lol

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DrDukePHD

DrDukePHD

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ALPHA.GanjaGuy said:
The place I work is an Amazon/eBay/other marketplace seller.. This happens all the time on Amazon, often times it's not even the previous customers fault but lazy or non-informed Amazon staff.

Amazon staff will often times just mark it back in and call it a day, let the next customer deal with it.

as was mentioned by @RottyRzr I would return it if the tamper proof seal is tampered with. You can tell Amazon also but the customer service team are not connected to the warehouse staff and cannot cross communicate in any way. More likely, they will offer you a refund without return to avoid the product going back into stock
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Thanks for that info!
 
Hook Daddy

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DrDukePHD said:
So are you suggesting If i order a powder from China & put it in another smaller box... i can then sell it to you as "Made in the USA"? lol
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No, but packaged in the USA would be fine and most people don’t see past that. As well China will sell anything as anything. For example Chinese sellers in the past sold dirt and flour as black pepper. Nothing was done since there was nothing harmful from the dirt or flour, it was passed as edible and if people liked it they could buy it. I’m just saying I wouldn’t trust the label on a Chinese product to be anywhere near accurate.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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DrDukePHD said:
So are you suggesting If i order a powder from China & put it in another smaller box... i can then sell it to you as "Made in the USA"? lol

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Yes you can. I'm not saying that's what they're doing but "Made In USA" doesn't necessarily mean as much as some people think it does. Any American company can claim made in the USA even if it isn't. There is no formal process for American companies to use that term. They can lie and if caught the only penalty is to remove that from their labeling.

THE ONLY WAY THE FTC KNOWS WHEN A COMPANY IS MISUSING THE “MADE IN THE USA” LABEL IS IF IT RECEIVES COMPLAINTS AND THEN INVESTIGATES. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF REVIEW.
 
DrDukePHD

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Alright so I think for now on, If i'm ordering a "food/organic" type product I will avoid Amazon & order directly from a companies website. Just too many bad experiences with Amazon lately, I have to return their orders CONSTANTLY.
 
twentyeight.threefive

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xtsho said:
Yes you can. I'm not saying that's what they're doing but "Made In USA" doesn't necessarily mean as much as some people think it does. Any American company can claim made in the USA even if it isn't. There is no formal process for American companies to use that term. They can lie and if caught the only penalty is to remove that from their labeling.

THE ONLY WAY THE FTC KNOWS WHEN A COMPANY IS MISUSING THE “MADE IN THE USA” LABEL IS IF IT RECEIVES COMPLAINTS AND THEN INVESTIGATES. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF REVIEW.
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Companies wouldn't lie to consumers just to get them to buy their products. That's absurd.
 
FirstCavApache64

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DrDukePHD said:
Alright so I think for now on, If i'm ordering a "food/organic" type product I will avoid Amazon & order directly from a companies website. Just too many bad experiences with Amazon lately, I have to return their orders CONSTANTLY.
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I have been wanting to order some yucca as well so I emailed them to ask exactly where they source their yucca from and where their products are made as they say there Made in the USA. I'll update if and when they reply to me. It was after business hours when I sent it today.
 
DrDukePHD

DrDukePHD

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FirstCavApache64 said:
I have been wanting to order some yucca as well so I emailed them to ask exactly where they source their yucca from and where their products are made as they say there Made in the USA. I'll update if and when they reply to me. It was after business hours when I sent it today.
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Awesome man, Rurumo uses it so it can't be bad. I also just bought their Fish & Kelp liquid product @Lenin1917 suggested it.. pricey but it arrived with the seal intact at least. Also it had good reviews on Amazon.

Anyways really excited to hear their response thanks bud!
 
Billytheluther

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DrDukePHD said:
Awesome man, Rurumo uses it so it can't be bad. I also just bought their Fish & Kelp liquid product @Lenin1917 suggested it.. pricey but it arrived with the seal intact at least. Also it had good reviews on Amazon.

Anyways really excited to hear their response thanks bud!
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Yeah, i read a couple of post from rurumo saying its good but im thinking of just buying the raw version after coming across this..
 
xtsho

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PadawanWarrior said:
The LLC part makes me question where it's really from. But here's from the FTC.

www.ftc.gov

Made in USA

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There may be rules about using "Made In The USA" but there are many breaking those rules.

I also want to state that I'm not accusing this company of falsely claiming made in the USA. They're just repackaging bulk materials. If there is a Chinese link they could be unaware of it as the supplier they purchase from could be misrepresenting the product their selling. I don't know where the product came from. I just think people put to much faith on this Made in the USA on labels. Maybe I'm too cynical but I've come to learn over the years not to take anything at face value.

It also looks like they've recently implemented something with some teeth only a year ago. At least now there is a penalty.


The Federal Trade Commission (“FTC” or “Commission”) issues a final rule related to “Made in USA” and other unqualified U.S.-origin claims on product labels. This final rule is effective August 13, 2021.

www.ftc.gov

FTC Issues Rule to Deter Rampant Made in USA Fraud

The Federal Trade Commission finalized a new rule that will crack down on marketers who make
www.ftc.gov www.ftc.gov


Until now it was a do nothing approach.

"In 1994, after the North American Free Trade Agreement took effect, Congress enacted legislation authorizing the FTC to seek penalties and other relief for Made in USA fraud, but only after the Commission issued a rule. However, there had long been a bipartisan consensus at the FTC that Made in USA fraud should not be penalized. The final Made in USA Labeling Rule changes course on the Commission’s longtime approach."

DrDukePHD said:
Alright so I think for now on, If i'm ordering a "food/organic" type product I will avoid Amazon & order directly from a companies website. Just too many bad experiences with Amazon lately, I have to return their orders CONSTANTLY.
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You also might want to contact the company through the contact form on their actual website and inform them of the bad experience you've had. They might be unaware of the issue you've had with their products. The thing with Amazon is that businesses don't have any control of the inventory once Amazon has it. That product must be stored all over the country in different Amazon warehouses since it's offered with next day delivery.
 
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PadawanWarrior

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xtsho said:
There may be rules about using "Made In The USA" but there are many breaking those rules.

I also want to state that I'm not accusing this company of falsely claiming made in the USA. They're just repackaging bulk materials. If there is a Chinese link they could be unaware of it as the supplier they purchase from could be misrepresenting the product their selling. I don't know where the product came from. I just think people put to much faith on this Made in the USA on labels. Maybe I'm too cynical but I've come to learn over the years not to take anything at face value.

It also looks like they've recently implemented something with some teeth only a year ago. At least now there is a penalty.


The Federal Trade Commission (“FTC” or “Commission”) issues a final rule related to “Made in USA” and other unqualified U.S.-origin claims on product labels. This final rule is effective August 13, 2021.

hhttps://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2021/07/ftc-issues-rule-deter-rampant-made-usa-fraud


Until now it was a do nothing approach.

"In 1994, after the North American Free Trade Agreement took effect, Congress enacted legislation authorizing the FTC to seek penalties and other relief for Made in USA fraud, but only after the Commission issued a rule. However, there had long been a bipartisan consensus at the FTC that Made in USA fraud should not be penalized. The final Made in USA Labeling Rule changes course on the Commission’s longtime approach."



You also might want to contact the company through the contact form on their actual website and inform them of the bad experience you've had. They might be unaware of the issue you've had with their products. The thing with Amazon is that businesses don't have any control of the inventory once Amazon has it. That product must be stored all over the country in different Amazon warehouses since it's offered with next day delivery.
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I know some clothing company in Utah just got fined and shit for replacing the Made in China Labels with Made in America.

The rule is confusing though. HLG is made in USA. But we know they get the diodes and shit overseas. But build them here. So I'm assuming at least half the parts have to be from the USA and half of the manufacturing. I don't know. HLG is honest whatever the rules are. I bought a couple of the UV bars and those are made in China, and say it clearly.

I'm curious about stupid shit like this.

Edit: Oh, this part about sums it up kinda.

As described in Section I above, the NPRM proposed to codify the Commission's longstanding interpretation of Section 5's requirements governing substantiation of unqualified MUSA claims. This interpretation was first articulated in Commission cases dating back to the 1940s [33] and was formalized in the 1997 Policy Statement. Specifically, the NPRM proposed to prohibit unqualified MUSA claims on labels unless: (1) Final assembly or processing of the product occurs in the United States, (2) all significant processing that goes into the product occurs in the United States, and (3) all or virtually all ingredients or components of the product are made and sourced in the United States.
 
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