a mongo frog
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Just working tons. So much work everyone is on 6 days a week. And gardening. I've been stalking you, just not saying much.Where have you been?
Just working tons. So much work everyone is on 6 days a week. And gardening. I've been stalking you, just not saying much.Where have you been?
I have a couple cheap 100 watt achin led for my cuttings.Then once rooted I stick them in a12x8 room under two 1000 HPS lights around 40 plants or so and just run it.Ive always done decent for real and that's why I've never made the switch to LED.You don't veg under led?
That’s what I did to try out led. Got a 240w kingbrite and never turned backIf you buy new lights, you're allowed to just find a little more square footage and do a bonus grow. Even one whack 10 ounce run in a 4 x 4 tent with the new LED would pay for the light like 2 or 3 times over.
Well most everyone skipped those parts and waited till the lm301b which changed the gameProbably five years ago, urged on by my LED guru, I built myself a high-quality COB light set-up. I think I spent over $500 in parts....probably closer to $650...and had high hopes that this lighting would be the answer for me.
While I enjoyed the build, the light didn't perform anywhere near what I expected. It now sits on a shelf in my basement collecting dust.
Around six years ago I had a good friend that spent $30K on the latest-and-greatest grow room. He had CO2, a flood and drain system for 45 plants, an 8 ton A/C unit, and 15 1000w Kind blurpuple (did I spell that right?) overhead. To make the story short, it was a dismal failure. He didn't know what the fuck he was doing and probably killed about 150 plants before quitting. My take away from this is that spending a boat-load of money doesn't necessarily translate into a good grow. He paid $1,500 per light....big bucks even today.....and they were hot....and sucked. He tried selling the lights back to the grow store......and they didn't want them.....they had already moved on.
Just because something has been around a long time....sorta like me I guess....it doesn't mean it's outdated....or easily replaced.
Yea but he has a guru!Well most everyone skipped those parts and waited till the lm301b which changed the game
Haha I remember those guys on here with all their fancy numbers and I was like meh. Nothing against hps I used them for like 15 years but lm301b bar/wide spread lights do the same job with more efficiency which is great for home growers and large ops that can afford to upgradeYea but he has a guru!
this is the main reason he failed, Not the lighting!He didn't know what the fuck he was doing
So....the $15K he spent on those lights were a smart move....ya know...because it was the best back then?this is the main reason he failed, Not the lighting!
I still use HPS to flower. Lots of people do but there are some good points made considering the climate, time of year so on and so forth. I think in the end it depends on your latitude and attitude. Both can do the job, it doesn’t have to be an either or situation. I actually use both but after having used both, in my setup HPS is king for MY flower.I appreciate all the comments. I get all the pluses of LED's.
Do you know what.....I was getting the same comments 6 years ago about the end-all in LED's and they were......and to put it nicely.....were lacking.
And I would like to point out that of the comments, no-one has tried to tell me that LED's are better for growing quality plants than HID's.
I acknowledge that LED's have come a long way since then....and maybe someday will actually match HID's .......but we're not there yet.
I have a LED expert that is a nerd on this and his suggestion of what I would need to spend to replace what I have going is about $2,000. Using his math, I would save $50 a month in electricity and about $300 a year in not needing to replace bulbs.....for lights that are almost as good as what I have.
While I bitch about the heat.....I live in Upstate New York where we have some pretty cold months....and that heat goes from unwanted to welcomed during those months. I would have to run heaters to keep the plants in the desired range....guess what that does to my electric bill?
I've spent years considering and debating LED vs. HID and here I am....still using HID's.
Seems like he had more money than brainsSo....the $15K he spent on those lights were a smart move....ya know...because it was the best back then?
How would that pay for the light?If you buy new lights, you're allowed to just find a little more square footage and do a bonus grow. Even one whack 10 ounce run in a 4 x 4 tent with the new LED would pay for the light like 2 or 3 times over.
I didn’t say that, I said it wasn’t the lights that made him fail. Clearly spending $15k on lights or $30k on a grow room when you don’t know how to grow is foolish.So....the $15K he spent on those lights were a smart move....ya know...because it was the best back then?
Pretty much.I didn’t say that, I said it wasn’t the lights that made him fail. Clearly spending $15k on lights or $30k on a grow room when you don’t know how to grow is foolish.
Ive been an hps grower since shortly after I start growing in 05. I’ve been watching the LED market change and grow for years. The next light I buy will be LED because it’s obvious to me at this point they have reached the point of producing as much light or more with less electric use and a better canopy spread.
Most decent growers can grow with any of these lights. You make adjustments to your grow environment based on the plants needs and poof success.
This whole thread is full of people saying it doesn’t matter what light you use if you use the right light for your conditions and you are the only one trying to “defend hps” and trash talk other tech. Kinda seems like a troll thread to me.
Wow......that sounded a bit hostile....for what....my sharing my experiences and opinon?I didn’t say that, I said it wasn’t the lights that made him fail. Clearly spending $15k on lights or $30k on a grow room when you don’t know how to grow is foolish.
Ive been an hps grower since shortly after I start growing in 05. I’ve been watching the LED market change and grow for years. The next light I buy will be LED because it’s obvious to me at this point they have reached the point of producing as much light or more with less electric use and a better canopy spread.
Most decent growers can grow with any of these lights. You make adjustments to your grow environment based on the plants needs and poof success.
This whole thread is full of people saying it doesn’t matter what light you use if you use the right light for your conditions and you are the only one trying to “defend hps” and trash talk other tech. Kinda seems like a troll thread to me.
Look at the misterkister dude on the other forum. Spends $20k for a 4x8 set up on every bell and whistle , but can’t grow worth a fuck.So....the $15K he spent on those lights were a smart move....ya know...because it was the best back then?
Hopefully this is legit.. it looks good and i agree, i like the programmable spectrum.LED's are constantly getting better and better. Kinda like iPhones or computers, you gotta upgrade every now and then, but the downside is that LED's last so damn long, you gotta wait years to upgrade if you really got the itch to do so. I'd really like to get my hands on the new DimLux.. looks interesting. Programmable spectrum that has a LCD display showing the light spectrum... pretty cool. Don't even know if they're available just yet, but they look like they're gonna be hella expensive.
https://dimlux.nl/dimlux-xtreme-series-led-750w/