Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

Roger A. Shrubber

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The sad (dangerous) thing is despite the facts, a very large portion of your citizens are willing to clap their hands over their ears and shout "LALALALA" who still think this man is the second coming almost.
well, they can do it in the fucking corner out of the way....i don't care if trump ever sees the inside of a cell, he's shot his wad, he's now a cult leader, not a politicians, the people who really run the republican party are sick of his ass, and they'll cut him the fuck off if he keeps being a major embarassment...which he can hardly avoid being, all he has to do is open his mouth.
we need to be going after all of his handlers and enablers...the freedumb caucus assholes, all the state level electors and enablers, all the republican AGs who cooperated with the big lie...destroy their hierarchy, lay waste to their t.o.o., it's hard to wage a war agaisnt democracy when all your officers have been arrested and incarcerated for treason
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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this should happen to him every time he lies...
he'd last maybe 15 minutes
Are you nuts! It would bring down the power grid and there would be nothing left of the fucker but ashes and vaporized bullshit. I go for burning at the stake on the capitol hill lawn, invite his fans and pass out marshmallows, patriots can circle around the roaring flames singing the national anthem. Make a show of it, Donald will want a big crowd and high ratings! Burn a few of his henchmen as a warm up first and have a guy dressed as Uncle Sam light the flames. :lol:
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I would like to raise the possibility that they are not smart.

They are also very well armed and full of dumb rage.

I have a guy at work who keeps crowing about the coming "red wave". This week I raised the possibility to him that it might not go the way they think. I raised the point that things have been going against the wave for a while and that it might not amount to what they expect in magnitude. I asked him what he would think if he woke up and found that Republicans actually lost ground in the Senate. As I expected, he said the only way that could happen was through massive vote fraud "like the last one". He also said that if that happened, "they" would be going back to DC but this time with guns.

A whole conversation followed. He said that there is no way people wouldn't vote overwhelmingly Republican because he's talked to people in local stores and they are pissed about inflation. Amazing that America has seen inflation before without resorting to overthrowing democracy, isn't it? I agreed that nobody likes inflation but cautioned him about making judgements about the nation overall based on conversations he has locally. I asked him how many states he has been to in his more than 50 years on earth. He declined to say. I asked him if he had ever been to a city for more than a couple of hours. I asked him if he had ever seen an Ocean. Again, he refused to say.

In my experience, when you ask specific questions like this and don't get an answer, you are dealing with a person who has spent 99.9% of their lives in their own county. If not, you will get an answer, such as "sure, I spent a week in Atlanta" or "yes, I drove up the Atlantic Coast to Maine." If you get nothing, there is a strong likelihood that they have not spent more than a week outside of their home state.

So a lot of these people have literally no baseline to make any judgements about how the rest of the country would vote. And yet, due to their being spoon fed one-sided propaganda and lies by a coordinated right-wing media machine, they are certain that they represent the vast majority of Americans. They have bought the myth that their freedumb is being impinged by a small group of "globalist elites". All this compounds their dumb rage to the point where they are just itching for a chance to grab their guns and shoot somebody... anybody, really. At best, we might dodge this bullet. But even if we do, we'll be dealing with this for years to come.

Red America is an open bucket of gasoline just begging for a match.
fuck em, light that bitch up...they're a minority, and they'll be fighting the national guard if they get uppity. that would be a good opportunity to wipe the worst of them out if they attack anything important, and lock the rest of them up long enough to put them on domestic terrorism lists...no more meetings, no more chatrooms, no more guns, no more hatespeech, or you'll be doing it from a cell..and as an added bonus, they're banned from flying, so a lot less karens on a plane.
i just really don't see a downside, except for the innocent people they will kill before the national guard mows them down like the stupid rabid dogs they are. that is regretable, but the tree of freedom has to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Did you forget about January 6, 2021?

They aren’t bluffing.
that was a pathetic attempt at a coup...they're just rowdy fucking rednecks playing soldier....when a few dozen of them get shot by the national guard, the biggest part of them will panic and run, the few hard core ones will be killed, and the movement will be broken...trumps army sucks just as much as he does, fucking gravy seals
 

DIY-HP-LED

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well, they can do it in the fucking corner out of the way....i don't care if trump ever sees the inside of a cell, he's shot his wad, he's now a cult leader, not a politicians, the people who really run the republican party are sick of his ass, and they'll cut him the fuck off if he keeps being a major embarassment...which he can hardly avoid being, all he has to do is open his mouth.
we need to be going after all of his handlers and enablers...the freedumb caucus assholes, all the state level electors and enablers, all the republican AGs who cooperated with the big lie...destroy their hierarchy, lay waste to their t.o.e., it's hard to wage a war agaisnt democracy when all your officers have been arrested and incarcerated for treason
That's what the independent special counsel law was for, created in the wake of Nixon and abused by Gingrich and the republicans over Clinton and Whitewater, then allowed to lapse. Win in November and it will be resurrected, then Garland can hand it off the them, he can appoint Frankenstein, a former republican patriot who hates their fucking guts. That is what the unique blend of public TV hearings, subpoena and prosecutorial powers is for, busting politicians, not just presidents.
 

Budley Doright

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fuck em, light that bitch up...they're a minority, and they'll be fighting the national guard if they get uppity. that would be a good opportunity to wipe the worst of them out if they attack anything important, and lock the rest of them up long enough to put them on domestic terrorism lists...no more meetings, no more chatrooms, no more guns, no more hatespeech, or you'll be doing it from a cell..and as an added bonus, they're banned from flying, so a lot less karens on a plane.
i just really don't see a downside, except for the innocent people they will kill before the national guard mows them down like the stupid rabid dogs they are. that is regretable, but the tree of freedom has to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants...
Defoliation has its time and place …… just sayin lol.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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According to the information that I have read..........the special master can only go over non-classified documents.........like passports and personal info.
Time will tell.
they would have to appoint a special master with the highest security clearance available for them to be able to even see most of the documents trump stole, you can't just appoint a court clerk to examine TC/SCI papers
 

Budley Doright

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that was a pathetic attempt at a coup...they're just rowdy fucking rednecks playing soldier....when a few dozen of them get shot by the national guard, the biggest part of them will panic and run, the few hard core ones will be killed, and the movement will be broken...trumps army sucks just as much as he does, fucking gravy seals
Actually I see them more as Walrus’s given the apparent need for blubber accumulation :o!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans in Congress who are relying on Donald Trump to excite voters in the fall elections are not only defending the former president against the FBI search of his Mar-a-Lago home but politically capitalizing on it with grave and potentially dangerous rhetoric against the nation’s justice system.

The party that once stood staunchly for law-and-order has dramatically reversed course, stirring up opposition to the FBI and tapping into political grievances and far-right conspiracies that fed the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

It’s all part of the GOP’s election year strategy to harness voter outrage over the unprecedented search, quickly and unequivocally set in motion as Trump hosted a dozen Republicans for dinner of steak and scallops at his private Bedminster club the day after the FBI action.

One Republican at the table, Rep. Troy Nehls of Texas, a former sheriff, said he told the former president “loud and clear” that it’s time to protect himself politically by declaring his 2024 campaign for the presidency.

“Mr. President, I said, the American people, your supporters, are concerned with this corrupt DOJ and the FBI.”

“If I were you, sir, announce you’re running for president,” Nehls recalled telling Trump. “Take that doubt, take that anxiety away from the people that want you to be our 47th president.”

The escalating rhetoric comes amid stark warnings of violence against law enforcement, including the Ohio police shooting Thursday of an armed man clad in body armor who tried to breach the FBI’s Cincinnati office and engaged in an hours-long standoff. The day before, FBI Director Christopher Wray had called the threats to agents and DOJ “deplorable.” The FBI has warned its agents to take precautions, citing an increase in social media threats to bureau personnel and facilities. In some extreme cases, GOP lawmakers and others are demanding the FBI be dismantled and defunded.

It’s all coming at a time of blistering attacks on the nation’s civic institutions that experts say is worrisome, if not dangerous, for the future of U.S. democracy. With no branch of government unscathed, the discord risks sowing distrust in the White House, the Congress and the Supreme Court. It has kept security tight in Washington, limiting public access to the government.

“All of this rhetoric is being thrown around without any consideration for possible consequences,” said Frank Montoya Jr., a retired FBI special agent who led the bureau’s field offices in Seattle and Honolulu.

“All that does is stir up that minority within the base that aren’t satisfied with just words, they actually want to act it out.”

Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, said, “The vitriol coming from extremists, white supremacists and others, has been overwhelming,” pointing to rhetoric from Trump’s former campaign manager Steve Bannon and others warning of assassinations or calling for civil war.

“We usually expect that from these quarters, but the same kind of rhetoric is coming from prominent Republicans and Trump allies,” she said by email. “These comments coming from Republicans are really worrying as they are mainstreaming violent rhetoric.”

Asked Friday at the Capitol about the responsibility leaders have to tone down the rhetoric and keep the nation calm during times of uncertainty and distress, House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy demurred — and blamed Attorney General Merrick Garland.

“I think the attorney general has a real problem here,” McCarthy said.

McCarthy, who is in line to become speaker if his party wins House control, revived Republican concerns that Trump is being treated unfairly, as the first former president to have his home searched by the FBI, and he criticized the attorney general for delivering only a few minutes’ explanation during a press conference.

In McCarthy’s view, it was Garland, not his own party’s rhetoric, that was dividing the nation.

“Why would you pause and not talk to the American public, knowing where the American public is at, that he is just inflaming the public, and why would you only speak for a few moments?” McCarthy said. “So I think the attorney general has a lot of explaining to do.”

Republicans believe the Justice Department has been overly tough on Trump going back to the Russia investigation into allegations the president was colluding with a foreign entity, including when he called on Russia to release emails it had stolen from the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 presidential election.

The Republicans contrast the FBI search of Trump’s private club and residence with its treatment of Hillary Clinton, who was investigated for using a private email server in violation of government rules during her time as secretary of state — an offense the led to long chants of “Lock her up!” during Trump rallies.

The No. 3 House Republican, Rep. Elise Stefanik, claimed without evidence the Biden administration was “weaponizing” the Justice Department against Trump, a top potential 2024 rival for the White House.

She joined fellow House Republicans on the Intelligence Committee on Friday in demanding information, and vowed if their party wins control in the November election they will find out what happened.

“The House Republican majority will leave no stone unturned when it comes to transparency and accountability into the brazen politicization of Joe Biden’s Department of Justice and FBI targeting their political opponents,” Stefanik said.

Congressional Republicans have said their office phone lines are ringing from constituents outraged over the raid and they said they’ve never seen their colleagues more fired up to fight back — all the way to the November midterm elections.

Rep. Jim Banks, the Indiana Republican who organized the dinner with Trump, said they encouraged the former president to “kick off the campaign now” to seize the moment.

Banks said Trump will be a “big part” of the House Republicans’ campaign to win back the House majority.

House lawmakers returned to session Friday to vote, walking through metal detectors to screen against firearms, a legacy of the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol. Lawmakers had a security briefing earlier this week to address ongoing threats against lawmakers.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Friday that Trump’s role inciting the insurrection at the Capitol was sufficient cause to have concerns about inflammatory political rhetoric.

“You would think there’s an adult in the Republican room who would say, ‘Just calm down and see what the facts are and let’s go for that,’” Pelosi said, “instead of again instigating assaults on law enforcement.”

One republican, Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, a former FBI agent, called on lawmakers to cool it.

“I don’t think any of this is okay,” Fitzpatrick told reporters.

“We’re the world’s oldest democracy, and that can go away very quickly,” he said. “As our adversaries have said so many times: The only way you defeat America, you’re never going to beat America from the outside, ever. The only way you beat the world’s greatest democracy is from within — turning American on American.”

He said, “So it’s incumbent upon everybody to act in a way that’s becoming of the office they hold — and that’s not casting judgment on anything until you know all the facts.”
more of the same obstructionist lies and horseshit we've had from the republicans for over a decade now....they need a new joke writer, the guy they have now sucks
 

Unclebaldrick

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fuck em, light that bitch up...they're a minority, and they'll be fighting the national guard if they get uppity. that would be a good opportunity to wipe the worst of them out if they attack anything important, and lock the rest of them up long enough to put them on domestic terrorism lists...no more meetings, no more chatrooms, no more guns, no more hatespeech, or you'll be doing it from a cell..and as an added bonus, they're banned from flying, so a lot less karens on a plane.
i just really don't see a downside, except for the innocent people they will kill before the national guard mows them down like the stupid rabid dogs they are. that is regretable, but the tree of freedom has to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants...
They fully expect the armed forces to join their side.

That's how dumb they are.
 
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