Molasses

[sonofnothing]

people are talking about using sugar cane or molasses.

how would i go about adding molasses to my plants' home to induce growth?
tanks

 

[Bigbud]

boil the kettle and add spoon full of molasses to a cup add HOT water and stir, I only add enough water to melt the molasses theres no need for a full glass.!!!

I found its easy to make it up as you go along or else it seems to form a scum on top of the water, if left to stand over a number of days

 

[mogie]

Go to FAQ and click on DIY & save. There you will find 2 articles on molasses.

 

[kieahtoka]

Go to FAQ and click on DIY & save. There you will find 2 articles on molasses.

Hey again mogie, I read the articles that you talked about and, it doesn't say how much molasses to use.

 

[mogie]

Two tablespoons per gallon.

 

[kieahtoka]

Awesome, thanks, I'd rather trust your answer than anyone elses.

 

[Bigbud]

Thats funny...^ As most of what you read from mogie no offence here... has been copyed from somewhere else and pasted on here with out ever trying it out.!!

Same for a few other people as well,

While its all good info you cant just take there word for it, look at the guys that tried molasses in there hydro and almost lost there whole grow because of it.

 

[kieahtoka]

Yeah but those guys were morons, it's common sense not to use it where there are moving parts, adding a gunky substance to something like that is just dumb. And I trust what mogie says because she has been shown to be very knowledgeable and has helped me in the past with threads I have made, and she's been right EVERY time.

 

[mogie]

I grow in soil and my advice has been strictly for soil growers. If you look at what I put in FAQ it mentions that manufacturers are making a killing off products that are basically just molasses. They repackage and sell it under fancy names like carbo this and load that.

These products are for soil growers.

Yes someone else did give some info out that implied it could be used for just about anything. Where did they get the info? I don't know. They aren't sharing any more nuggets of wisdom with us.

 

[Bigbud]

So whos to say then that one day you take advice from her and it turns out to be totaly wrong for what you needed

Are you then going to be the dumb moron ?

I wouldnt say them guys that used it in there hydro where dumb, they just took what they read as being the truth, and believing that the person giving the advice had experience with that subject, and didnt do any extra research to find out if what they where saying was right or not

Im not saying dont take advice but dont belive everything you read.

 

[mogie]

2 tablespoons per gallon. I use after I start to flower and ever other watering.

BigBud has a burr up his ...

 

[Bigbud]

LoL... I did say no offence

Its when I see posts like... I'd rather trust your answer than anyone elses.

Im just like STFU and wipe that sh*t from your nose,

I have just last night finished a 360g jar of molasses and im only on the 3rd week of flowering and have been feeding it since the end of week 1 (veg) with almost every watering, So in my very short time growing I have come to find almost every person has a different view on how to do things.

And sometimes you have to read between the lines and not take everything at face value or what people tell you, and to try things and find out for your self, as with a hobby like this the only real way to learn is to try it.

 

[nongreenthumb]

I would always be open to more opinions than one

 

[green_nobody]

hack, molasses speeds up root grow since it supports the development and volume of useful micro-organisms in soil.

that is the reason why i feed molasses already in vegging, about a single table spoon per gallon. in flower i crank it up to 2 just as mogie. and it works with soil. if someone tries this on hydro, well sorry is either a noob are a moron because with a little thinking it is clear what gone happen, rockwool is no soil and will cloak up.

 

[nongreenthumb]

hack, molasses speeds up root grow since it supports the development and volume of useful micro-organisms in soil.

that is the reason why i feed molasses already in vegging, about a single table spoon per gallon. in flower i crank it up to 2 just as mogie. and it works with soil. if someone tries this on hydro, well sorry is either a noob are a moron because with a little thinking it is clear what gone happen, rockwool is no soil and will cloak up.

So because you are a newb and you follow that advice thats your own fault?

Thats not a great message to send out, if your newb and you follow someone who has the appearance of experience and you fail that its your fault for not knowing more.

 

[kieahtoka]

LoL... I did say no offence

Its when I see posts like... I'd rather trust your answer than anyone elses.

Im just like STFU and wipe that sh*t from your nose,

I have just last night finished a 360g jar of molasses and im only on the 3rd week of flowering and have been feeding it since the end of week 1 (veg) with almost every watering, So in my very short time growing I have come to find almost every person has a different view on how to do things.

And sometimes you have to read between the lines and not take everything at face value or what people tell you, and to try things and find out for your self, as with a hobby like this the only real way to learn is to try it.

I know you meant no offence to mogie but STFU bigbud. I trust mogie simply because I have a reason to, UNLIKE YOU or alot of other people on here, I feel more assured when I get an answer from someone that has been right int he past. Mogie is not the only one I'd trust, FDD, NGT, KP, Al B, Roseman and all of those other guys too but since none of them posted on here I said MOGIE was the one I trusted out of everyone elses posts because thre's alot less likely chance of there being very bad consequences.

 

[babygro]

I grow in soil and my advice has been strictly for soil growers. If you look at what I put in FAQ it mentions that manufacturers are making a killing off products that are basically just molasses. They repackage and sell it under fancy names like carbo this and load that.

These products are for soil growers.

Well Mogie's got this one wrong too, so there's some truth in what Bigbud is saying. This is the problem when you rely on FAQ's written 3-4 years ago and are now out of date.

Molasses can be used in everything apart from hydro systems that rely on tanks/reservoirs/drippers/sprayers etc ie not NFT, DWC, Aeroponics, Flood and Drain etc To be honest, I'm not sure why anyone would want to, Molasses feeds the 'micro-herd' that decompose and chelate organic nutrients in soil grows, they don't exist in hydro systems.

It's perfectly acceptable to use Molasses in soiless mixes and grows via hand watering in such as perlite/vermiculite and Coco fibre, which are virtually hydro grows because the base mix contains no nutrients, and these have to be added as in all hydro systems.

 

[mogie]

I also checked with son of chong on this one. I always bow to his years of grow experience and the fact he runs a hydro store.

He said, "Two tablespoons starting in the 7th week of flower".

I start much earlier. But in flower also. There differing opinions on when to start but we agree on the amount.

 

[babygro]

I also checked with son of chong on this one. I always bow to his years of grow experience and the fact he runs a hydro store.

He said, "Two tablespoons starting in the 7th week of flower".

I start much earlier. But in flower also. There differing opinions on when to start but we agree on the amount.

So your buddy Chong is basically advocating using Molasses as a 'flushing agent' towards the end of flowering so the plant uses up its residual nutrients and starts uptaking the Molasses carbohydrates and mineral trace elements as well as helping to fatten up the buds.

This is why he advocates using a higher two tablespoon doseage.

Bigbud starts using his early in vegetative growth at a lower 1 tablespoon doseage, so he's using Molasses at that stage to feed and stimulate the root zone 'micro-herd' which will in turn multiply and colonise greater areas of the rhizosphere and enable a larger and more efficient plant nutrient uptake throughout the vegetative growth stage or for as long as he continues on that doseage.

I'm surprised you didn't know this Mogie, perhaps it wasn't in any of the FAQ's?

 

[sonofnothing]

well.. thanks for all the replies, i didn't mean to start a fight... but i was just curious..

i was too anxious, and as soon as i started the thread, i went to my plots, and i had a few 2 liter bottles, and i poured enough molasses in each to fill the little dimples at the bottom... probably about 5 tablespoons worth in each two liter. then i filled them up with the running water from the stream and shook it up real good... each bottle was split between two plants, so i guess it works out to two or so tablespoons per plant...

i topped two of my babies, and the other 4 are still growing normal. they are all female i believe, because of the intense growth at each node. the one i left home in my garden is really tall and stretched out, and NO growth in any nodes....

look at my journal, it will be updated almost daily, and after wedensdays forecasted rain, i will go check on my babies and see how they took off after a good rain + molasses.


thanks!