Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

[cannabineer]

Ok, I misunderstood. I thought I read somewhere that the DOJ was trying to get the appeals court to expedite the appeal of Cannons first decision, the allowance of the special master.

What do you think would happen if Dearie resigned?

my opinion (free and almost worth it!)?

It would be a powerful indictment of Cannon’s judgeship.
Maybe not powerful enough on its own to mobilize a penetrating review of her and the other “my judges”, but depending in part on an apparently level-headed senior judge’s reasons for disassociating himself,
it could be a datum favoring a shift of focus by those who watch the watchmen.

 

[cannabineer]

I would rather them just be as thorough as possible since there is always that possibility that 1 of the 12 jurors is a cultist. At least this way everything that they get can be exposed in a court of law.

Trump is the symptom, not the cause of the divisive propaganda. My pipe dream is that they are working to dismantle the entire enterprise of lies that the right wing is using to maintain power.

It is sobering to consider that Eisenhower sounded the warning. The military-industrial complex was the bellwether for the current push for corporate-implemented minority rule, with attendant civil rights erosion.

The current warning diagnostic is “pro-business”. Reaganomics has been when the antidemocratic agenda broke surface with a devastating torpedo into the engine room of a functioning republic: reduce tax income, and divert what there is from the welfare of the Wrong People.

How innocent his welfare queen calumny sounded across the gulf of where we have gone since. All my opinion.

 

[Fogdog]

I wonder...if I get raided, can I declare 23 boxes full of weed, legal? I have a standing order that it is, in my house...and I only have to think that order to make it so.

I think you need to appoint your own judge beforehand.

 

[cannabineer]

this may be my inner asshole speaking, but i think DOJ should just go ahead and nail his ass to the wall...bring EVERY charge they can bring against him with any hope of succeeding...starting off with espionage. they have to have metric tons of evidence against him and all his seditionist buddies by now. if they really want to fuck up the republicans, wait till one week before the elections, and very publicly indict EVERY SITTING SENATOR who participated in the electors bullshit, and every state level official who participated as well, everyone on each of those slates of electors, state AGs, EVERYONE who participated.
never happen, i know, but it would be glorious, watching them scurry for cover like a kicked ant hill

i reach for the metaphor of chess. A press too soon could lose the game.

A more deliberate approach is the one way to achieve the necessary result:
that one fine day, the opponent runs through the ninety billion available next sequences of action,

and every single one leads toward inexorable loss or concession.

Garland strikes me (at this point) as someone who knows the game, and is suited to doing it right instead of fast.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I would rather them just be as thorough as possible since there is always that possibility that 1 of the 12 jurors is a cultist. At least this way everything that they get can be exposed in a court of law.

Trump is the symptom, not the cause of the divisive propaganda. My pipe dream is that they are working to dismantle the entire enterprise of lies that the right wing is using to maintain power.

that is exactly why i want all of those state level officials indicted and convicted...remove their infrastructure and it makes it a lot harder for those at the top to manipulate the system.

 

[cannabineer]

that is exactly why i want all of those state level officials indicted and convicted...remove their infrastructure and it makes it a lot harder for those at the top to manipulate the system.

Art of the Possible - Political Dictionary

The “art of the possible” is idea that politics is a matter of pragmatism, instead of idealism. According to this worldview, politics is a matter …

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that said, you place your finger directly on why voting for city councilmen, utility board members and the PTA really matters. The little guys become the next generation’s heavyweight legislators.

 

[Fogdog]

I think that the DoJ slickly cherry picked parts of the ruling to appeal and not the entire thing. It was somewhat confusing early on, so I may be wrong, but pretty sure it was just to make sure they could plow forward with those particular documents being used still in their criminal investigation and didn't try to overturn the entire thing to give Trump a way to further kick the can down the road by appealing the appeal's decision. My understanding of law is virtually nonexistent though, so... yeah.

DOJ won the first appeal that gave them access to the classified documents. They introduced another appeal on Friday (9/30)

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/30/feds-seek-to-fast-track-appeal-in-trump-mar-a-lago-documents-fight-0005987922-09-30/

The Justice Department moved to quickly dismantle the independent review of documents seized from Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, contending that the review — ordered by U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon — is impeding its criminal investigation.

In a 15-page filing asking a federal appeals court to speed its consideration of the issue, prosecutors complained the “special master” review prevents DOJ from accessing thousands of non-classified records recovered from the former president’s estate.

This one would shred Cannon's ruling. There is language in the first ruling by the appellate court that they view Cannon's Special Master ruling invalid.

The Eleventh Circuit Cleans Up the Mess

The much needed appellate intervention puts the Mar-a-Lago investigation back on track.

www.lawfareblog.com

In short, while the opinion carefully and rightly deals only with what is before the court—the Justice Department having sought a stay only with respect to the classified materials—its logic almost certainly requires the dismissal of much of the rest of the case.

 

[printer]

Supreme Court declines to hear case on DOJ ‘filter teams’ used in Trump search
The Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear a case about whether the Justice Department (DOJ) can use “filter teams,” such as the one enlisted by the DOJ to begin a review of evidence collected at former President Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago to determine whether they are privileged.

The Justices denied a writ of certiorari in Korf v. United States, which questioned the legality of “filter team” protocols that allow teams of federal prosecutors and agents not assigned to a given case to review seized documents claimed to be privileged before the privilege question has been resolved.

The DOJ used a filter team to begin a review of the evidence collected during the execution of a search warrant at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence before Trump successfully pushed for a “special master” to review the documents he said were privileged.

FBI agents at the Palm Beach, Fla., resort recovered classified documents taken from the White House and kept past the end of Trump’s time in office.

The former president’s defenses for how and why the documents ended up at Mar-a-Lago has shifted, but one of his claims stymying DOJ review of the materials is that the documents contain privileged information.

In Korf, a “filter team” of DOJ attorneys reviewed materials seized during an investigation before a court had responded to claims of privilege on those documents.

The United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit allowed the protocols to proceed without requiring the filter team to show that an exception to privilege may have applied to the documents.

Supreme Court declines to hear case on DOJ ‘filter teams’ used in Trump search

The Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear a case about whether the Justice Department (DOJ) can use “filter teams,” such as the one enlisted by the DOJ to begin a review of evidence collected at…

thehill.com

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Supreme Court declines to hear case on DOJ ‘filter teams’ used in Trump search
The Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear a case about whether the Justice Department (DOJ) can use “filter teams,” such as the one enlisted by the DOJ to begin a review of evidence collected at former President Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago to determine whether they are privileged.

The Justices denied a writ of certiorari in Korf v. United States, which questioned the legality of “filter team” protocols that allow teams of federal prosecutors and agents not assigned to a given case to review seized documents claimed to be privileged before the privilege question has been resolved.

The DOJ used a filter team to begin a review of the evidence collected during the execution of a search warrant at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence before Trump successfully pushed for a “special master” to review the documents he said were privileged.

FBI agents at the Palm Beach, Fla., resort recovered classified documents taken from the White House and kept past the end of Trump’s time in office.

The former president’s defenses for how and why the documents ended up at Mar-a-Lago has shifted, but one of his claims stymying DOJ review of the materials is that the documents contain privileged information.

In Korf, a “filter team” of DOJ attorneys reviewed materials seized during an investigation before a court had responded to claims of privilege on those documents.

The United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit allowed the protocols to proceed without requiring the filter team to show that an exception to privilege may have applied to the documents.

Supreme Court declines to hear case on DOJ ‘filter teams’ used in Trump search

The Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear a case about whether the Justice Department (DOJ) can use “filter teams,” such as the one enlisted by the DOJ to begin a review of evidence collected at…

thehill.com

Am i reading this right? The supreme court sided with doj? I may be getting turned around in legaleze...
This seems to be saying that the DOJ can continue using their filter teams...Did i get that right? Or am i turned 180?

This court is a living contradiction...I'd rather try to untie the gordian knot than understand their reasoning, even if it goes my way, for once.

 

[printer]

Am i reading this right? The supreme court sided with doj? I may be getting turned around in legaleze...
This seems to be saying that the DOJ can continue using their filter teams...Did i get that right? Or am i turned 180?

This court is a living contradiction...I'd rather try to untie the gordian knot than understand their reasoning, even if it goes my way, for once.

I know, I had to read it a few times and it did not help much. I had to google the article title and get context.

11th Circuit upholds DOJ’s use of ‘filter team,’ rejecting 6th Amendment challenge
The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals refused this week to curtail the U.S. Justice Department’s use of “filter teams” to screen for privileged material seized from targets of criminal investigations.

In its first published decision addressing the government’s handling of privileged documents and emails obtained in a raid on a business’ offices, the 11th Circuit ruled in United States v. Korf that targets of a DOJ money-laundering investigation were unlikely to succeed in showing that filter teams, per se, are a violation of targets’ 6th Amendment right to counsel.

“Our holding on this front is not even close,” the court said in a per curiam opinion from Judges Beverly Martin, Robin Rosenbaum and Robert Luck.

That’s a setback for corporate criminal targets, who have scored a couple of recent wins in protests to the Justice Department's deployment of filter teams. As you know, filter teams, which are also known as taint teams, come into play when the government executes a search warrant and seizes documents and electronic communications from the target of a criminal investigation. To assure that prosecutors involved in the prospective case do not see privileged material, the DOJ calls on a different, walled-off team to screen the seized documents and emails.

11th Circuit upholds DOJ’s use of ‘filter team,’ rejecting 6th Amendment challenge

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals refused this week to curtail the U.S. Justice Department’s use of “filter teams” to screen for privileged material seized from targets of criminal investigations.

www.reuters.com

And it goes on for a bit, but the SC declining makes the lower court's verdict stand.

 

[Budzbuddha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577017097657401345

 

[cannabineer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577017097657401345

 

[Budzbuddha]

From the orange sphincter -

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577060980047380480

 

[cannabineer]

From the orange sphincter -

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577060980047380480

I am figuratively smelling that smell that sometimes comes off trucks on a long downgrade … the characteristic phenolic tang of ruined brake linings.

“oo that smell!” -L. Skynyrd

 

[hanimmal]

From the orange sphincter -

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577060980047380480

Trump pulling the 'I know you are but what am I' troll in the courts.

 

[Budzbuddha]

Where’s that bolt of lightning when you need it ?

 

[cannabineer]

Where’s that bolt of lightning when you need it ?


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[rkymtnman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577017097657401345

 

[rkymtnman]

I am figuratively smelling that smell that sometimes comes off trucks on a long downgrade … the characteristic phenolic tang of ruined brake linings.

“oo that smell!” -L. Skynyrd

we saw a truck go up one of those runaway truck ramps on a trip to Durange maybe 6 or 8 years ago. luckily we were pretty far back but the way that thing plowed thru gravel was impressive

 

[Budzbuddha]